Hornady has a new baby

Rick

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Several years ago I attended the SHOT Show with a press pass. Still get news releases from Hornady and just received this. It may interest some here.

 

Rick

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The black rifle crowd may pick up on this. Would no doubt be a winner in a 15 inch mid grip bolt handgun.. I shot silhouette with a 6BR 15" XP for awhile, thing would shoot the hair off a gnat's hieny at 200 meters. Was a bit tough on barrel life though.
 

CZ93X62

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Looks like it has promise. It doesn't give up much to the 243. 108 grain Javelin J-Words staying hyper-sonic to 800 meters is very 308-ish. Hajji will be impressed. So am I.

The 52K PSI will extend bolt life, without a doubt. 6.5 Grendel adaptation.
 
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CWLONGSHOT

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I dont see it.
6mmAR and Dasher do same or better ballistics. But dont have the same twist rates.

its a 108g @2700 fps. Notjing to write home about.
MUCH TALK about "superior" to the 308... Ha must be NEW MATH.
I watched three videos a d they are absolutely katering to the ignorant youth. Banking of the same path as the Creed. (That does nothing the 100yr old Sweed has been doing for a CENTURY. ;). Youth today aint big on History. ...

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popper

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Supposedly developed for military, more punch than 223 and just as light. 6.5 grendel necked down? About as cast friendly as 243.
 

Tomme boy

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So they stole the 6mm GT from G.A. Precision. It was designed around Varget powder.
 
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Ian

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Interesting. I'm not too enthusiastic about anything that doesn't use standard AR-15 magazines, does this?
 
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Tomme boy

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CMMG is going to have the first rifle for this. And yes whatever mags for the Grendel. Based off of the 220 Russian case
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Interesting. I'm not too enthusiastic about anything that doesn't use standard AR-15 magazines, does this?
The Grendel requires a special mag. But if its just a follower or a different bend I am not 100%. The problem in Grendel Is the larger dia. So will be same for the 6.
I was able to fire Grendel 100% in 223/556 mags BUT with only 3 rounds. Sometimes 4. @ 5 they would begin to jamb up.
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Ian

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Yeah, screw that. If someone really wants to revolutionize the gun industry right now they seriously need to standardize an "AR-15+" lower and magazines which simply has a wider mag well and magazine internal width and still taper at the top to correctly feed the cartridges to the ramps. These could run the 7.62x39, 6.8, 6.5 Grendel, 358 Legend, 9x39, and anything else in that intermediate head diameter category.

CMMG and Magpul need to get together an make this happen.
 
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JWFilips

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It will shoot ....just as the others do!
Not my idea of a good cast bullet cartridge though. Rather look to the past for those type of cartridges
 

fiver

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well when they get it up to 7mm and keep the velocity I might just want a 7 Mauser AR.
 
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CWLONGSHOT

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I have a 25/45 that I enjoy. But I dont push it as hard as factory ammo.
I have worked up a load using a 110g FTX bullet that shoots sub moa @ 2675 from my 20" bbl.

Never really was enamored by the few 243's I owned. They shot great but didnt kill with authority. IMHO Diameter & FPE are needed. & havin that in a WFP CAST Surely helps too! :)
 
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Missionary

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I have never hunted big game with a .243 but every yote, groundhog, racoon or other critter did not go very far when getting swatted with our .243 in a 788 Remington.
 

Rick

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This doesn't do much of anything for me. Maybe if I were still shooting silhouette I might take a closer look at it for a 15" XP but even there I can't see it doing much the 6BR didn't do in 200 meter silhouette. It should be a good step up from the 5.56 in downrange momentum and retained velocity. So will the military change over to this? I don't have any inside info but nobody will more surprised than me if they do.
 

CZ93X62

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That 1-8" twist imposes a pretty strict speed limit on castings--in the 1600 FPS ZIP Code in my now-departed 25/35 WCF with groove & grease designs. Like my rat-upper AR-15 with its 1-8" twist, this will be a redcoat-only rifle.

It is no state secret that the 5.56 x 45 gets kinda weak for anti-personnel usage much past 400 meters. That the 6mm ARC can inflict significant injury to 800 meters+ is a fine thing. Whether it will become a general issue item seems unlikely to me, but for specialty units it could have applications. It certainly can work for civilian users as a varmint-to-deer chambering close to the niche filled by the 243 Winchester.
 
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CWLONGSHOT

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6MM Rem is one that always appealed More To Me. Probably cause as a boy starting out my uncle used one with great efficiency.
I have a super duper nice Ruger 77 Walnut stock wrapped up in the Rafters. Im kinda hoping to find a ol tang safety Ruger 77 to fill it...
This 6mm ARC is just great if ya like it! Hope it does everything they claim it to.

Its not me and Im not there target consumer.

CW