How many of you actually believe this ?

35 shooter

Well-Known Member
Too many loads have been out there for too many years in short necked cases where the base is well below the neck, but shoot accurately and recovered bullets show no sign of melting.
No way i believe that old wives tale.

I prefer the base to stay in the neck if possible, but if not, personally i wouldn't be too worried about it.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
Chopped rubber mulch will stop all within 8-10" ! slugs will look like you could shoot them again!
 

Ian

Notorious member
Bullets can and do rivet in the neck, below the neck, in the throat, or in between the case mouth and end of the chamber. If you work the pressure and alloy around to work with the bullet and throat shape, and also tune the "jump", the bullet shape can be manipulated during firing for better or for worse.

Context is important. While lead never has and never will be "melted" by powder gas, it can of course be gas cut and mushroomed. In the context of soft, squishy lead/tin alloys and fast powders, lots can go wrong if the bullet is seated too deeply into the case. However, in the context of tougher alloy, slow-burning rifle powders, and a gentle rise of engraving resistance (proper bullet-throat mismatch), no harm is done to the bullet even if seated down below the neck. I've shot and recovered far to many paper jackets without so much as a scorch mark on the base to believe anything can burn or melt.....often not even traces of lube on the patch tail.
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
Young inexperienced reloaders, shooters, casters, read this in a book that they " think " they can put some confidence in....................


 

Ian

Notorious member
....and then go on the internet spreading it around at every opportunity. Lack of quality editing is common with small publications, and this should serve as the perfect example of cast bullet shooters needing most of all to hone the skill of winnowing chaff.

If you want to visit another entertaining editorial faux pax, read the Lyman cast bullet book, second edition where it is recommended to stir the melt to keep the tin from rising to the top, then read the third edition where this notion is put down in a very condescending way. Which to believe? The knowledge was available for the second publication, but no one consulted a qualified metallurgist or even a high school chemistry teacher?
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
if you wanna learn/hear every wife's tale about cast out there try selling cast boolits at a few gun shows.
how hard are they?..... I don't shoot anything under 2200 bhn in my target loads.!!!!
you sell 9mm bullets???????
are these really 22 bullets?? for like an AR rifle???
you lube seems pretty soft, I never seen nuthin like that how does it stay in the groove?
and my persona favorite.........I shoot a glock.... bladdah blah yadda..
 

Ian

Notorious member
Guess I'd better quite shooting those 19 bhn lead bullets through of my polygonal .308 at 2600 fps, might put my eye out.