I need a bigger hammer

JWFilips

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Ian,
I think that "hammer" worked really well!
Wish we had a few of those beast up here in NEPA! I may start hunting again! They are butt ugly!
I know they have a few preserves that have hog hunting but never cared for those type hunts...It is like going to a Pheasant Hunting Farm
 

fiver

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I'd have no issue shooting a pig either.
only problem is everyone wants you to pay them to remove the nuisance.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
I'd love to hunt pigs with a handgun. Have a 629 and a .44 Redhawk, either should work. Ah well, maybe one of these days...

Until then I'll just enjoy bacon with my eggs. Uhmmm, bacon.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
JW,
Though California requires a license, wild pigs can be hunted year-round, and there is no bag limit.
Come on out!!
 

Ian

Notorious member
If you don't have the wild pig scourge in your area, count yourself lucky. They're fun to hunt and the half-breed domestic/Russians are very good to eat, but they absolutely devastate farm and ranch land.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Yup. Wild pigs have surpassed deer as the most-hunted big game species here in Kalifornistan. Nasty, raunchy creatures.
 

Ian

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Well, not long after I got home and put the blonde pig away, I got the call that I didn't miss the second one. Bullet landed only an inch ahead of the intended mark (in behind right shoulder, out in front of left) so it went through the right shoulder and exited the very top of the sternum. In any event he didn't go as far as I thought and my moving target shooting is better than my searching skills :rolleyes: so back I went and got three more quarters and two backstraps.

Bullet blew the humerous to smithereens, probably trashed a few ribs, and made a reverse tracheotomy hole I could stick two fingers in with room to spare. I'm REALLY happy with this load and bullet. The MP 311-180 HP is breaking big bones, making a big wound channel in a straight line, and retaining enough mass to make huge exit holes

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Ole_270

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Sons in-laws are in central Texas, he makes the trip with the family a few times a year. He’s been talking about a Wilson upper in 300 Hammer to take along and try on pigs. Sounds like just under 30-30 velocities but with 120-130 gr bullets. One video showed a guy using 110 TNT with thermal gear to good effect. No long range hits to judge that aspect though. Lighter weight since it’s on the AR-15 format.
I’ve thought a few times about a 25-45 Sharps since I’m kind of a 25 cal slut. Problem is, many bullet brands are dropping the 87-100 gr game bullets. Speer still has the hot cores and there is the pricey Noslers.
 
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freebullet

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Congratulations, Ian!

When I was culling deer for some farmers up north of here I quickly learned that ar 308's are never a bad choice. Combined with a tough but splody bullet....fugettaboutit, lights out, done dealing, & welcome to the club.;)

You have one of the most versatile hammers a north American guy can have & use.
 
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Ian

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Thanks for all your input on this, Bruce. I had to be stubborn and make it happen with cast bullets instead of target HP jax, but still the high-velocity 'splody bullet in the boiler room as you suggested does the trick.
 
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freebullet

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Even when your an inch or 4 off, yep they work.:)

You can dang near take down a herd of deer with them if they were unaware before.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Someplace in my pics I have a 6.5 Power Point exit picture .

Killed a sow with a high neck shot and had blood shot in the "armpits" with a 257 Roberts and a 100gr SGK .

45 Colts in a Carbine was very effective with an 1100 fps 260 gr cast .
2 holes through 1.5" gross shields once through the soft part of the shoulder blade always through 2 ribs .

An old silver tip 150 in 30-30 was effective also . With about a 3/4" exit a little too far back but not in the guts .

I want to run the 311-165 RD in the 30-30 and 308 .
I have some loaded for the 30-30 that are good loads at about 2150 fps . I expect the 308 to go about 2300 . It might be a little bit abusive at that speed inside 50 yd .
 

popper

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I've run most al versions of the RD in my 336 30/30. My version works great and trying in BO pistol now (170PB & 185GC). Lots of loads to check and try to get the magnetospeed working again. Got a # of 3031 I've never opened, LeverE for the GC and Rx7 appears the best with the PB.
JW - did you ever get your MS to work right again after it quit? No blade hit, just doesn't detect second sensor.
Only advantage of the 300Ham'r is flat trajectory. More powder and 10% fps increase at most. Cases much more difficult to make. Have to cut right at neck (223) and then expand the shoulder without splitting. Cut, form, anneal, expand, trim.
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fiver

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I use that Speer 100gr. bullet in the 25-06 for deer, and coyote type stuff.
it musses stuff up if your even close to bone, it really needs a bit better [read thicker] jacket up front.
or I need to slow it down a bit more? I'm already hanging out at just under 3-K MV with it.
maybe 2800 or so from the 250 Ackley or 257 Bob would be a better fit for that bullet but I hate to give up any more of why I have the 25-06,, and it's damn accurate.
 

Ian

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The Ham'r looks like it needs .223 Basic brass for best results.

Fiver, what about the .260 Rem? That cartridge always seems to get a bad rap, maybe because it wasn't loaded hot enough originally. Or maybe it's something else where the case shape and aspect ratio just doesn't work quite right? Did anyone ever make a .250-08? I'm thinking AR-10/LR/308 compatibility here.
 

fiver

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the 25-08 has a name to it that always escapes me it starts with an L airc.

the 260 got slapped around from the start [thank's Remington] that's why the creedmore is getting the press.
it has the extra speed from a smaller case in the same platform because they pushed the case back to where the bullet wants to be.
the 260 needs a longer platform to get back on equal footing with the C-more, at that point you might as well go to the 6.5 X 257, X-55, or the 6.5-284.

anyway the 25-08 has the ''advantage'' [or dis-advantage] of 120 or even the newer 130gr bullets that ain't 3"s long so they would fit in the neck of the case and the AR-10 magazine too.

of course you could just go with the 25 creedmore and a slightly faster twist barrel [Dave Manson has reamers on hand] it runs right there with the 250 savage AI. [actually a little more case capacity]
a die set would be the 6.5 redding bushing set with a bushing for the 25 cal neck installed.
if Hornady is making their 120 HP bullet it would be a slam dunk off a ladder easy AR set-up.
 
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gman

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Correction. Not that I want hogs running wild around me. I have seen the damage they can do. I just want to shoot them!
 

Ole_270

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On the 300 Hammer, I read that Starline makes cases.
The 25-308 is called the 25 Super, always thought a Kimber Classic Select rebarreled to the 25 Super would be about the best of the best for my uses on deer and antelope.
I've killed a couple deer with the 100 Speer Hot Core out of the 250 Savage at 2800 +. Still just a little too soft for my taste, would absolutely prefer the 100 Hornady Interlock, but they went and discontinued my favorite 25 cal bullet awhile back. A large bodied older buck I got a couple years ago at 100 yards with the Hot Core dropped at the shot, through both shoulders, but found the bullet just under the hide on the far side. That bullet was expanded right down to the base and had just a small button of lead still with it. There was a bit of blood on the outside of the hide, so there might of been some of the core exit. Together the core and jacket weighed 64 gr, the core just 38. 64% sounds better than it looks though.
I have yet to try the 100 Ballistic Tip on game, it's supposed to be one of the heavy jacket versions of that bullet shich are usually pretty stout.
 
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