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Hawk

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Did anyone mention the 358 SOCOM?
458 SOCOM necked down to 358. Uses 458 SOCOM mags and supposed to shoot almost any .357/.358 bullet or mold you want from 110 gr. up to over 200 gr.
Supposedly, with 180 gr. jacketed at around 2,300 fps.
 
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Ian

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I didn't think Tony was doing the .358. He said no advantage over the .375 last I heard. We were kicking around the .358 Rhino a little in PM, and the MGP. MGP is proprietary stuffs and special steel and a whole lotta BS that doesn't interest me. Much easier to build an AR-10 and only change the barrel and tweak the magazines in order to run .358 Win, or any of the Raptors.
 

Ian

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The .375 would do it too. 2200 with a 200-grainer and 6" point blank to 200 yards. I can also make it work with the .458 and a 340-grain lead bullet at 1700 fps/muzzle with a 185 yard point-blank range and still put 1,100 lb/ft on target at 200 yards.
 

Hawk

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My bad regarding the 358 S.
I knew Tony had a waiting list for barrels, but didn't know if was a bleak as all that.
He said he needs ten guys on the list to make another run of 358 S barrels and only has one guy signed up.
 

Brad

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Fiver probably has a spare 375 Win lever action he can send you. I have a nice 200 gr mould I can loan you for it. If he isn’t a titewad and sends his Marlin instead of the Winny then rapid fire is no problem at all. Easy to scope too.
 

Ian

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My bad regarding the 358 S.
I knew Tony had a waiting list for barrels, but didn't know if was a bleak as all that.
He said he needs ten guys on the list to make another run of 358 S barrels and only has one guy signed up.
I think it's kind of like the .44 shrubmaster or whatever he called it. Made ten barrels and had trouble selling all of them, permanently shelved the product after that. The .375 Socom looks like a really good, solid, versatile, safe system and I think it will stick around for a while yet, as will the .458. Some wildcats on top of wildcats don't really do anything special and end up going away really quickly. If the Socom had more pressure capability in the AR-15, a .358 would make a lot of sense, basically it would be a scaled-up WSSM. BUT, limiting pressure to 35K, you gotta make it up somewhere and bore cross-sectional area is how you do that.
 

fiver

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I could but it's dialed into filling rattler type loads right now.
the pigs would be dead as possible at 200 yds but you'd be shooting a bit high at 100.
I really need to draw up a 220-230gr 4 cavity GC non GC mold over to Tom's for both the Winchester and the Revolver.