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Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
I messed up my shoulder. Sized and swaged a almost full 5 gal bucket of 9mm today. Worked on it all day on and off. That little Lee APP press got the workout today. Had to take the primer swage apart a couple times as the carbon from the primer holes was getting on the slide and gumming it up causing it to throw cases across the room.

I ran into a few cases that swaged very different than the others. They were Xtreme and FM. They both seemed to have a higher web than all the others. I need to go through the brass and find a few and do some measuring. I had some set aside but in the caos of sizing the brass it got dumped into the buckets like all the others.

I never seen so many WIN cases with crimped pockets. And Federal nickel cases.

Oh, BTW LEE is modifying the APP into a universal priming machine. I think it will be a stand alone thing. I hope it works better than the auto prime on their presses. That is the biggest fail with their presses.

This is the only thing I have seen about it.

 

JonB

Halcyon member
10 days ago, I did a little too much 9mm lube-sizing on the Star (2000 bullets), I should have split it up over a few days, my shoulder was sore for a week.

I wish Lee would have made a stand alone bullet sizing press using their standard 7/8 threaded sizing dies.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Yes, make it so the dies go in upside down. Drop the bullet, nose first, in the die and lower the ram. Have a tube out the bottom to place into a bucket/box so the bullets are gently placed into storage.
 
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Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I think Jon has a little Lee single stage press mounted upside-down to accomplish just that.
I have considered that but then you are lifting the handle to size instead of lowering it. That alone has kept me from trying this.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Yeah, my rotator cuffs couldn't tolerate it for long, just pointing out a solution. Iirc utoober Elvis Ammo does the same. It might not be too bad for sizing .22s.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
So get an old Pacific DeLuxe , I know a guy that has one but needs the Super DeLuxe for his swage die set , it's an upstroke press that mounted upside down would be a down stroke press then .

Look at me go just a problem solving fool .
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
My memory, for what it's worth, says the RCBS JR 2 and JR 3 toggle block could be mounted to raise the ram on either the up-stroke or down-stroke.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
There are a few automated presses on Youtube with the standard presses upside down. And you can use the standard sizing dies in the APP. I have a few that I have opened up to the sizes I wanted.

Lee is evolving a bunch of the dies for the APP also. They are on their 3rd version of the swage dies. This looks like their best version yet. I have not had that big of a problem with the one I have doing 556 brass. But lots of others have. It was all about the rhythm on how you ran the press that made the press run like it is supposed to.

https://leeprecision.com/app-swage-kit.html

The Primer setup looks like it uses this die also to seat the primers.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
I think Jon has a little Lee single stage press mounted upside-down to accomplish just that.
I bought a second Lee classic cast single stage and mounted it upside-down.
The handle is adjustable 360º as well as switchable Left to Right.
The way I have it mounted and adjusted, I am sitting in a chair and I am pulling the handle straight back toward me when the bullet is being pushed through the die.

presstable cropped for upside down press.jpg
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
I remember those, almost bought one as a press riser.

the old C&H presses also worked by pulling the handle up, they had their swage presses set up that way and when they built their reloading presses they just used the same frames and swapped out the ram type and changed the hole in top of the press.

heck Jon get the bullet feeder, that'd only be like 16 tubes, a tube takes maybe a minute to run through the press.