Ideas on a 1000+ yard build.

[JSH]

I won't get into a discussion on bullet weight and time of flight.
I will set back and try to absorb as much info as I can from folks with hands on input.

Brian, been to the same party you mention above.
Believe me when I say it is cheaper and easier to learn from others trial and error.

7-08, you have experience with it and confidence in it, excellent start.
I would look long and hard at a top notch action and trigger. This can be used down the road in the future.
Stocks, I find them to be like holsters. It takes a several to find what you desire in one, and that fits you well in that purpose.
Barrels. This is tough for me. They are pretty much consumables as they are a wear item. But, then ya get what ya pay for,most of the time.
If you have a certain of sort of fetish with the 7mm, I would imagine you are equipped with bullets, powder and premium brass.

And by all means don't forget glass. Optics today are so much better than in years past.

We as a group of shooters and casters are very very fortunate. Molds that I only used to dream about are just a few clicks away. And, as close to perfect as humanly possible.

Glass and coatings have come so far in the past few years it is crazy.

I look forward myself to your build.

 

[Ian]

If you want to make 1000-yard TOF and ballistics discussions irrelevant, just get one of these:

 

[KeithB]

Heck, I want a death ray laser. TOF = insignificant, drop at any range = 0.

 

[fiver]

that scope looks silly up there.
but so do the ones on my 300 BO's, with the sun shades on them the scope is only about 2 inches short of the end of the barrel.

 

[Brian Palmer]

Someday Ian....someday.

 

[Eutectic]

that scope looks silly up there.

I have to agree with Lamar here...... What is that about a foot and a half above the center-line of the bore???

On a serious note.... everything we do in this 'gun game' we play has its own set of disciplines... We're kicked around 1000 yards until we are blue in the face so lets go back to 8 yards. 8 yards and little bitty targets like Voles or mice in your vegetable garden. Maybe even grasshoppers!

Ever try to hit a very small target very close with a very high mounted scope??? The amount you aim high to hit takes a computer to keep up with because it changes by the foot!

My up close gun is also my first gun. It's a Winchester Model 90 in .22 Short only. Its had a long life of killing 'little' up close! I've killed hundreds if not thousands of grasshoppers in my vegetables with a Benjamin .177 pellet pistol! Go ahead and laugh...... but a grasshopper at 15 feet offhand with a pistol will make a pistol shot out of you.

Pete

 

[waco]

I run a .308 at 1000 yards. It's a out of the box Rem 700 that sits in a McMillan A-3 stock with a Leupold VXIII 3.5x10 Mil Dot scope. 10x is more than enough power to see MOA targets out to 1000
This glass is pretty nice for an inexpensive scope. I shoot 175gr tipped SMK bullets out of LC brass and use IMR4064 with CCI primers. When the wind is calm the rifle will shoot right at or just over MOA at 1000 for a five shot group shot prone off a bipod up front and a sand bag under the stock. Sometimes a little better than that.

IMO 1000 is pushing it for the 308. If I'm shooting past that I use a .338 Lapua. This is also a box stock rifle. A Savage 12 Target Magnum. It's a single shot bolt gun. 26" barrel with an effective muzzle brake and a very nice target accutrigger that is adjustable from 1.5lbs down to six ounces. On this rifle I opted for a Vortex Viper PST 6x24x50 with a mil dot and mil adjustments.
With bipod attached this rig weighs in at 16 pounds.

I load Lapua brass with CCI LRM primers with H1000 and 300gr Nosler custom competition bullets. This load will do just over half MOA at 1000 for five rounds. I've made hits on 2MOA steel targets out to one mile (1760 yards) The BC on those Noslers is .800

I have a new load to try now that the Nosler bullets seem to be a limited run item now. I bought some Hornady 285gr ELD bullets to try over Retumbo. This will also be my first go with Privi brass.

I would agree with spending the most you can afford on glass. Most all rifles out of the box today shoot well enough. You can't hit what you can't see. I was on a pretty limited budget so the PST was the best thing I was able to find for $1000 at the time.

Once we get a bit more proficient at a mile we plan to move the target back to 2000 yards. A good spotting scope really helps too! My brother bought a brand new in the box Leupold Mark4 off Ebay for $1900. Everywhere else they are $2500

He was going to buy one anyway so he was excited to save $600

 

[RBHarter]

I shot an MBT 243 at 740yd once the butt lift was sorted out 18x12 wasn't difficult to hit .

 

[JSH]

Air guns are addictive.
Try shooting baby aspirins.
Used to play with the strike anywhere matches.
Then we went to tooth picks, shooting them in half.

 

[Brian Palmer]

I run a .308 at 1000 yards. It's a out of the box Rem 700 that sits in a McMillan A-3 stock with a Leupold VXIII 3.5x10 Mil Dot scope. 10x is more than enough power to see MOA targets out to 1000
This glass is pretty nice for an inexpensive scope. I shoot 175gr tipped SMK bullets out of LC brass and use IMR4064 with CCI primers. When the wind is calm the rifle will shoot right at or just over MOA at 1000 for a five shot group shot prone off a bipod up front and a sand bag under the stock. Sometimes a little better than that.

IMO 1000 is pushing it for the 308. If I'm shooting past that I use a .338 Lapua. This is also a box stock rifle. A Savage 12 Target Magnum. It's a single shot bolt gun. 26" barrel with an effective muzzle brake and a very nice target accutrigger that is adjustable from 1.5lbs down to six ounces. On this rifle I opted for a Vortex Viper PST 6x24x50 with a mil dot and mil adjustments.
With bipod attached this rig weighs in at 16 pounds.

I load Lapua brass with CCI LRM primers with H1000 and 300gr Nosler custom competition bullets. This load will do just over half MOA at 1000 for five rounds. I've made hits on 2MOA steel targets out to one mile (1760 yards) The BC on those Noslers is .800

I have a new load to try now that the Nosler bullets seem to be a limited run item now. I bought some Hornady 285gr ELD bullets to try over Retumbo. This will also be my first go with Privi brass.

I would agree with spending the most you can afford on glass. Most all rifles out of the box today shoot well enough. You can't hit what you can't see. I was on a pretty limited budget so the PST was the best thing I was able to find for $1000 at the time.

Once we get a bit more proficient at a mile we plan to move the target back to 2000 yards. A good spotting scope really helps too! My brother bought a brand new in the box Leupold Mark4 off Ebay for $1900. Everywhere else they are $2500

He was going to buy one anyway so he was excited to save $600

Waco how do you like the vortex for that work? My plan is to go with vortex seems to be the best bang for the buck.

 

[waco]

Waco how do you like the vortex for that work? My plan is to go with vortex seems to be the best bang for the buck.

When the sun is right, I can see bullet strikes on steel at one mile. I love this scope. To be fair, It's the best scope I own. I know there are a lot better ones out there.
But like I said, for a grand and under, It's hard to beat.

 

[fiver]

dollar for dollar I think Vortex is easily equal to Leupold.
you do get a bit more scope for those dollars though.

 

[Pistolero]

I believe I would start with a Savage, probably the offside ejection single shot style.
The stock factory guns have been some serious shooters.

Bill

 

[Full.lead.taco]

I've had really good luck with my Savage LRP and LRPV rifles both topped with some of the nicer vortex scopes. My LRP in 6.5 CM shoots very nice--and that red target trigger is crazy light. Get some good glass with turrets, and take a look at some of the ballistic apps like "Shooter" and "Strelok Pro" and a few others. A few years back I was playing with the Savage LRPV chambered in .223 with a 7 twist barrel. I was shooting the heavy VLD bullets seated long and banging steel torsos at 1k. Make sure you have a good spotter/spotting scope too.

 

[waco]

Make sure you have a good spotter/spotting scope too.

Yep. We have a Leupold Mark IV

 

[M3845708Bama]

Decided I want to build a precision long range rifle. Thinking 7mm-08 is what I am going to run. Its a cal I all ready have and love. Now to decide AR10, Rem 700, or something else. Looking for input from those with experance in that type of shooting and rifles.

Before you make final decision look at info on thr 6xc. My son built one on savage action and has better groups at 600m than my 100 yd groups

 

[Eutectic]

Paul (our gunsmith) built a 6mm- .284 for our 1000 yard competition. It did pretty well...... But the 168gr Matchkings are better even from the 7mm-08..... My good friend Ralph shot 190gr Matchkings in a .300 H&H. I think all in all, that bullet faired the best. A lot can happen in over one second flight time!

Pete

 

[popper]

Can you believe we couldn't find a 1000 yard spot in Texas Ian?? Try about 40m south of Abilene. ARs are nice as you can get any barrel, free floating, single loading and any stock that you want. Don't really even need a gas tube, buffer or spring.

 

[fiver]

I always wondered how the 6.5-06 would fare with a 160gr bullet.
it should be able to get 2800 fps pretty easily and the recoil wouldn't be too bad.

 

[waco]

I shoot a 175gr tipped SMK @ 2600fps with IMR4064
I want to try out the 178gr Hornady ELD match bullets. I think they might fair better at 1000