In my opinion, quite possibly the best plain base .30 cal.
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Rockydoc
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The best bet is to send it to Erik Ohlen.
He is the BEST ! !
http://www.hollowpointmold.com/contact/
He is the BEST ! !
http://www.hollowpointmold.com/contact/
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Kevin Stenberg
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Ben in most standard (unwarn) chambers how far out do you seat the bullet?
The only case i have tried it in is the 308 and it does purty darn good, even up to hunting velocities.
The only case i have tried it in is the 308 and it does purty darn good, even up to hunting velocities.
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Spindrift
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I’ve not done extensive testing with coated, checkless bullets of this variety- but I’ve done a small series of comparative groups. Groups (PC/PB vs PC/checkless) were identical, but slightly bigger than typical groups with lubed bullets in that particular rifle.
Rockydoc
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So you are saying that you get better groups with lubed bullets than powder coated bullets, all else being the same?
Spindrift
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Yes, that's correct - in that particular rifle.
When we add coating to a bullet, we add girth; typically 0,002in diameter, everywhere.
This affects fit; sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. In a way, it's not "the same bullet" anymore.
With the NOE311-179 (#315- clone) in my Howa .308win, accuracy seems to be the best with regular lubed bullets, so far. In another rifle, this might as well be the other way around.
When we add coating to a bullet, we add girth; typically 0,002in diameter, everywhere.
This affects fit; sometimes for better, sometimes for worse. In a way, it's not "the same bullet" anymore.
With the NOE311-179 (#315- clone) in my Howa .308win, accuracy seems to be the best with regular lubed bullets, so far. In another rifle, this might as well be the other way around.
Charles Graff
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Tapered multi-band bullets go way back. When the Shutezen game was afoot, Pope and others furnished molds of this design with their rifles. Loverin picked up the idea and applied it to his design of molds. Then SAECO got ahold of the notion and came up with a terrific design or two.
Everything old is new again and some things old are better than many things new.
Everything old is new again and some things old are better than many things new.
Matt
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In general I’ve found the Saeco #315 and it’s clones shoot better that any Lovern design that I’ve tried. My NOE copy is a four cavity plain base that shoots well in everything I tried it in. I tumble lube and shoot it as cast. It and my Saeco GC #315 (with gas check) do slightly better sized to .311 with just the first and/or second grease groove filled.
There is something about the Saeco design that’s different. I assume it’s the tapered nose and long solid base…….????
There is something about the Saeco design that’s different. I assume it’s the tapered nose and long solid base…….????
Charles Graff
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The issue I have had with Lyman Lovern molds is that they are Lyman molds, i.e. the specs are all over the map depending on when the mold was made. The top bands are larger than the SAECO 315 top bands. Too big to engrave on the rifling. When I started sizing the top two bands of the Lyman 30 Cal Loverin molds .301 - .302 accuracy took a big jump...I mean a big jump. This let the top bands engrave on the rifling and allowed the bullet to be seated farther out in the case.
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Rockydoc
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These are some results of my checkless powder coated Accurate 311-175B clone of the Saeco #315. Fired from my Ruger #1, 30-30 Win at 50 yards.
Load is 7.2gr Bullseye, a load suggested by Ben.
. This is .8" including flyer, .5" for 4 shots.
This is .9"
This is 1"
This is 1.16 total, .75" without the flyer.This is acceptable accuracy for me without gas checks for plinking.
Rocky