In my opinion, quite possibly the best plain base .30 cal.

[Ian]

I've yet to shoot a cast bullet that was designed for a gas check and not put a gas check on it that shot well.

Ben

"well" is relative. Minute of soda can at 100 yards is plenty good for soda cans at 100 yards. Five holes touching versus one hole at 50 yards is another matter. checkless bullets never shot all that well for me, either, however.....

If you powder coat, the playing field is very much leveled....in fact I tend to have BETTER groups from GC bullets sans checks than from flat based bullets because of base edge flashing from the PC and sizing causing irregularities which are not present on the bottom edge of the base driving band when powder coating and standing bullets on their bases. So there's that.

 

[Glaciers]

Well I just placed an order for a aluminum 5 cavity, 2 cavities 31-175B gas check and 3 cavities 31-175BP plain base. Spendy mold, but I’m looking forward to this one.

 

[Brother_Love]

I’ve got the NOE version in a 3 cavity PB. Ben is right, it is accurate almost with any powder you have on hand. I use it 3 of my 30/06 rifles.

 

[Glaciers]

I thought about the NOE mold but Al only had 4 and 5 cavity plain base available. I really wanted both plain and gas checked. So I order it from Tom quite a bit more but I’m confident in the quality and I’ll have exactly what I want. If Al had the mixed PB and GC 4 cavity I would have ordered it, but, could be quite a wait for NOE to restock. And currently NOE has a bout of Covid going on.
Going to be ordering a .420 mold from Arsenal as well in the morning to go with that Swiss single shot

 

[shuz]

What is the NOE equivalent number to the Accurate 311- 175PB?

 

[Glaciers]

311-179-FN-I5 4 Cavity PB | NOE Bullet Moulds

noebulletmolds.com

 

[JWFilips]

This is acceptable accuracy for me without gas checks for plinking.

Rocky, Yes it is.
For me with "low node" shooting; I have not found any difference shooting PC coated .......Plain Base, Gas Checked base without the checks or Gas checked bullets with Copper gas checks! They all shoot accurately ( just not to the same POA) This is at 50 yards

 

[5shot]

Which shoots better - the NOE with the taper on the first two drive bands only or the Accurate?

 

[BBerguson]

"well" is relative. Minute of soda can at 100 yards is plenty good for soda cans at 100 yards. Five holes touching versus one hole at 50 yards is another matter. checkless bullets never shot all that well for me, either, however.....

If you powder coat, the playing field is very much leveled....in fact I tend to have BETTER groups from GC bullets sans checks than from flat based bullets because of base edge flashing from the PC and sizing causing irregularities which are not present on the bottom edge of the base driving band when powder coating and standing bullets on their bases. So there's that.

I think going to have to try this with my one 30 cal mold. Not having much success with gas checks so I might as well try them without. Maybe I’ll find a winner. (and a time saver!)

 

[Ben]

This is 100 yards with my T/C , 30-30 with the SAECO # 315 with gas checks.
Best handgun group that I've ever fired.

Ben

 

[35 shooter]

That’s some fine pistola shooting there Ben!!

 

[fiver]

IIRC the original had the tapered bands.
most Loverign designs do.

 

[Ben]

Which shoots better - the NOE with the taper on the first two drive bands only or the Accurate?

Here is my SAECO # 315.
I have absolutely do doubt at all about how it shoots !
Will my Accurate 175 BP ( A SAECO # 315 clone plain base bullet ), out shoot it.
The jury is still out.

Ben

 

[5shot]

Here is my SAECO # 315.
I have absolutely do doubt at all about how it shoots !
Will my Accurate 175 BP ( A Saeco # 315 clone ), out shoot it.
The jury is still out.

Ben

I'm wanting to try it in my Marlin 336. NOE version would probably be suitable for that, since the straight portion would be entirely in the neck.

 

[Ben]

As I understand it, the orig. SAECO # 315 design goes back to the cast bullet bench rest days ( way back ) . However, I've shot the bullet in many 30-30's with great success, along with many 308 Win. and 30-06 rifles.

Ben

 

[5shot]

Thank you

 

[Snakeoil]

We have several shooters at the club that use the Saeco 315 in their .30 cal rifles with great success, both with GC and PB. I used to shoot that bullet in my 03, but I was buying them and suspect that they were too hard. I also had to seat them way out or they would not shoot well. I went with the NOE version of the 314299 and never looked back.

 

[Ben]

The 314299 is never a mistake.
A great mould.

Ben

 

[quicksylver]

I have the NOE versions in PB and GC, both shoot extremely well .I believe Ben has his modified by having it made a tho over. my PB was crazy accurate in my Winchester 54 30-30. i believe I used something like 7.5 grains of Universal, I'll have to check. My .308 prefers the .312299 PB with 9.3 grains of Universal

center of the circle is 3/8" all shot @ 100 YDS

 

[Snakeoil]

I am pretty sure that my friend Craig is shooting the PB 315 in his .32-40 CPA 44-1/2. He's breech seating them. He shot some superb groups in the match yesterday.