Lead Wheel Weights?

glassparman

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I have a 75 lb ingot of zinc.

I know not to mix them in the same pots and such with lead but is it worth trying for cast bullets or has this been tried already too many times?

Mike
 

Dusty Bannister

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I tried to sell zinc on another forum, and had no interest. Sent it to a friend near the coast and he will turn it into anodes for boats and equipment in salt water areas. Not that it can not be cast into bullets, just too little interest. Seems like folks continue to try to make it work, but lack easy success.
 

Mitty38

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I have a 75 lb ingot of zinc.

I know not to mix them in the same pots and such with lead but is it worth trying for cast bullets or has this been tried already too many times?

Mike
Zinc requires a longer bullet to get enough weight. Then still comes up lite. So a complete rethink on bullet seating, powders, velocities ect. Pure zinc melts to a castable consistancy at over 725.( I am sure someone will correct me on the temp, but close enough for my point.)
degrees.
Zinc combines easily with carbon steel. This is why galvanizing works so well.
But also why.... Should not use an electric pot for pure zinc, as it will eventually eat the steel.
If you do it, a heavy cast iron pot and a ladle is better.
It will eat up an aluminum mould or carbon steel moulds so best to use an iron mould like "Ideal".
Zinc also shrinks a bit In the casting process. But this can be made up with a little beagleing, and powder coat. Powder coat is also recommended to prevent the zinc from possibly chemically reacting to the barrel, eventually ruining it, depending on the barrels alloy.
With Zinc you will get very little expansion of the base, and will not mould to the groves as well as lead. So a thick jacket of polyester powder coat, Or paper patching, is your friend here.
I followed "Elvis Ammo" on his endeavor with this, before his videos on it were pulled.
I also had some success with
Sabot type loads in a 410 shot gun using Zinc. But did not get too far.

@fiver has had some success using it as an additive in small amounts for one of his alloys.

I eventually resided to making fishing weights.
Also an anchor for my brothers boat with it., Using sand casting.
 
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Petrol & Powder

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try your local hospital and dentist they use an alloy simular to WW for x rays and then sell it
Most current X-ray techniques use digital detectors and no longer rely on actual film. There is very little lead disposed of in the process (mostly markers). The lead used for shielding, such as aprons and wall shielding are not discarded.
The technology has changed considerably.
 

richhodg66

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I have considered Zinc for casting jigs and sinkers.

It seems like lead will be banned for fishing tackle sooner than bullets. I have a few sinker molds around, seems as though if you used the next heavier egg sinker or jig head with zinc, it would work out OK.

Someone on the other site was buying it to make cannon balls for his muzzle loading cannons at some point. Surely that zinc is good for something.
 

Petrol & Powder

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Surely that zinc is good for something.
 

fiver

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Powder coat is also recommended to prevent the zinc from possibly chemically reacting to the barrel, eventually ruining it, depending on the barrels alloy.
i gotta take/make a little exception to this.
zinc used to be an oil additive [ZDDP] it would put down a chelated [think alligator skin] surface on the metal which allowed oil to lay down between the spots.
it does the same thing in a guns barrel.
it takes a bit to put the coating down but once it's there it is very easy to maintain and it has a lot of benefits.

the problem with Zinc bullets is the weight is low, and they are very hard.
they go real fast though,,, for like 50yds.

oh, and they quit using it because those cars [chevies] that burn a bit of oil would allow the zinc in the oil to coat the little BB's in catalytic converters.
not a problem except the little BB's couldn't get real hot and do their job burning off the excess gas in the exhaust when that happened.
 

Mitty38

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Foo

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I have a 75 lb ingot of zinc.

I know not to mix them in the same pots and such with lead but is it worth trying for cast bullets or has this been tried already too many times?

Mike
Go watch Elvi Ammo guy. Quite a character. Go here then search his site for zinc.