LEE APP Press Experience ?

mattw

Active Member
My 2 cents... I have been using it for about a month now and have processed a couple k of 380, sized and deprimed, bulge busted and the apply the final taper crimp. Same for about 1k of 9mm and a few hundred 41 mag. Obviously not bulge busting on the later 2. I have also sized a few thousand PC 380, 9mm and 38 bullets. I am using the NOE sizer holder as I had many sizers for the NOE Star holder.

What makes it run smooth as butter? The correct tube and tube holder controls how straight the case or bullet falls, critical! Adjust the fingers to minimal opening to catch the case or bullet, very critical. The correct slider top and the correct drop position, most critical. The last one keeps them from falling out in strings, when I crimp loaded rounds this single adjustment is so important or the unit will dump a full tube of loaded rounds in avalanche fashion.

I have been able to get it to run well with everything except 45 ACP. I am having problems with them sliding into the shell holder, they stop to soon and I have to nudge them into place. 223's are still not as smooth as I would like them either.

I cast the 39 grain MP 22 for TCM, this will be a problem to size because it is so short. I am having a special slider 3D printed at the library 30 miles away... the loaned out their printer during the COVID closure and still do not have it back... really honking me off. I suppose I should get one for myself at some point.

Is it perfect, no... does it work well, yes. Would I buy it again... yes! I load a few k rounds a month on an old RC2 with a case kicker, prime on a Partner with a Lee auto prime II, I always seat and crimp in 2 operations. This has allowed me to move everything except charging and seating off to the APP. I think spare parts should be kept, the entire slider assembly was the first spare that I ordered. It came with both sets of fingers as well. Make sure your vertical bars are tight and stay tight, mine came loose once and things got a little strange and acted oddly.

I spent several years producing ammo, by the 5 gallon bucket, with a bud that commercially loaded on 1050's, I have never been comfortable with multi-stage presses for my own loading. Thus I still and always will run single stage. I am almost 55 and my hands and body have had a hard life, inserting tiny cases in a shell holder or dropping tiny bullets one at a time into the Star have become much slower for me. I find that this little press really does speed up the work and makes my hands hurt less by the end of the day.
 

mattw

Active Member
They are just like every press lee has made. They are fussy and take work to get them running smooth. I don't size brass on mine. Every other piece it will rip the case out of the shell holder and stick in the die.
I have not run into this... what caliber and old or new shell holder variation? This should not happen, has not happened with 9mm or 223/5.56 to me a single time.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
I have not run into this... what caliber and old or new shell holder variation? This should not happen, has not happened with 9mm or 223/5.56 to me a single time.
223 and 9mm. I can take the exact same dies and lube that I use and they are fine on my rock chucker. And a lee pro1000 and a lee 4 hole turret and a lee ABLP.

The shell holders are the new style with the groove. The lube is lanolin and alcohol 1-10 mix.
 

Walks

Well-Known Member
Been following this thread since it started.
Thinking back over the last 50+yrs. It seems every time A new press comes out there are "teething problems".
I've seen Presses fail and die or go on to be improved and become popular.

Shotgun Presses and Metallic cartridge, both.

But what I remember is one press. The Lyman " Easy Shotshell Reloader " .
Lyman gave up on it in the late 1960's, discontinued it. Probably too much competition from the MEC 600. But it was a really good press, one of the members of the Trap Club My Family belonged to reloaded 2-300rds a week on one for a lot of years.

About 1980 or so it showed up, back as the Lee " Load All " , now improved as the " Load All II ".
Except now it was made of pot metal & plastic.

Know of 2 Cowboy Shooters back in the 1990's that used the Lee load all to blow up their Stoeger SxS's.

Same thing, pot metal & plastic. When you pulled down the handle everything shook and rattled.
Not something that happened with the Lyman version.

Just the ramblings of an old reloader.

Yea, I'm a Lee hater. And I use their molds too, and a few odds and ends.
 
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RBHarter

West Central AR
I've had 4 load all's , now I have a 2-3/4 , 3" 12 ga , 2-3/4 20 ga , 2-3/4 16 ga MECs and a D155 in service and one for parts that could be adjusted for 3" 12 ga . I also have a MEC Grabber set up for 3" 12 ga .
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
Back when we could hunt with lead in Canada for ducks and geese, 8 of us went in and rented a place for the season....on the Canadian side of Lake St. Claire. The pass shooting for ducks was terrific. I purchased a Lee Load All II's and started loading 2 3/4" and 3" magnum shotgun shells with # 5 and # 4 lead. Another member purchased one as well. We also loaded 11/4oz. and1 3/8 oz loads of #6's. We loaded thousands of them over the years, almost exclusively in Winchester compression formed (AA) cases with nary a problem.

I don't shoot near as much shotgun as I used to, but still have a Load All II in 12 and 20ga. both still work and work well. I have never seen a shotshell loader that could change over between different loads and short and long cases, easier then my Lee's. They are not as fast as a lot of loaders, but I have never seen any as flexible.
I still have 50 cal. ammo cans full of 3" and 2 3/4" 1 3/4oz. and 1 1/2oz #4 shells....they still work just fine.

I was not a trap or skeet shooter, but was able to keep my self and my hunting buddies in hunting ammo. I am reluctant to say just how much shooting we did, but we loaded thousands of rounds/season.
 

mattw

Active Member
223 and 9mm. I can take the exact same dies and lube that I use and they are fine on my rock chucker. And a lee pro1000 and a lee 4 hole turret and a lee ABLP.

The shell holders are the new style with the groove. The lube is lanolin and alcohol 1-10 mix.

I would really suggest that you make a call to Lee. Something is really not right here. I have had 9's rip out of shell holders before on my RC2, but it has a bunch more leverage. Could be an alignment problem, the vertical rods on the back of the press do come loose. Mine did some very strange things until I found that issue... good buddy lock-tite to the rescue.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Well I'm not in a hurry. This press sounds like it will do somethings for some calibers well, but, fiddling with this and fiddling with that. No thanks. I'll give it a few years.
Besides I have 2 single stage press and a LEE Clasic Turret Press I'm very happy with. And a lubersizer, all of which takes up bench space. I don't see this press capable of replacing any of these. As an Additional press, yes but, the Lee Clasic is about as complicated as I can stand. Don't like to fiddle with stuff. Pull the lever and something pops out over there, and so on. No thanks.
Signed
Stuck in a rut and liking it.