looking for a P14 barrel

Brad

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Staff member
I think Bruce wants to do it his way and do it by himself. A certain level of pride comes from doing it yourself.
 

Bruce Drake

Active Member
That will end up costing you far more and be a tribute rifle not an original.
Considering that nearly every P14 went through a rebuild in the 1930s by the British, having another barrel and stock mated to the action will not be any different than a Weeden rebuild. Tribute rifle? That's exactly what its going to be. My maternal Great grandfather served in WWI with a P14 (7th Battalion Welsh Regiment - stationed at Tees in defense of Scotland as a territorial unit) he later emigrated to the US in the 1920's and married a local gal in Maine.
 

fiver

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it'd be super cool to find a British Isle, unit marked rifle.
my P-14 just says U.S. Property down the side, damn good shooting rifle though.
 

Charles Graff

Moderator Emeritus
I had a nice P-14 barrel that was given to me by a friend in a batch of barrels. I cut it up and turned much of it into a handle for my 1950's Pacific Super C reloading press. The rest of it, I turned into a straight line bullet seating die. At least my press handle has rifling in it.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I can recall when '14's and '17's used to come into the shop all the time. They were $40-60 rifles back then. Most were sporterized with a hand saw and a hacksaw and were uglier than sin. No clue whatever happened to them all, but they were getting traded in on 742 Rems in '06 or Rem 700's in whatever the latest whizbang round was hot at the time, maybe the 7 mag.
 

Bruce Drake

Active Member
I've got a gunsmith who normally builds rifles for the US Palma Long Range Rifle Team who is willing to make me a Pattern 1914 barrel stub from 4140 carbon steel stock and then interior thread it for a 20" carbine barrel-length Savage 340 barrel in 30-30 with a locknut controlling the headspace like a Savage 110 as a proof of concept approach to make the rifle into a sporter. Once we are comfortable with this, we will rethread a longer rifle length barrel in order for it to be brought back to an exterior view of being a P14 Bisley Match rifle again. He's put me on the wall for machine time in January so I'll be mailing him the various components over the next couple of weeks to start the process.
 

fiver

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can i have that 340 barrel when your done with it?
i've got a 340 i'd like to make shoot 1/2" groups... LOL

anyway... i'd probably go straight in for the new barrel and pay to have the sights put on.
 

Bruce Drake

Active Member
can i have that 340 barrel when your done with it?
i've got a 340 i'd like to make shoot 1/2" groups... LOL

anyway... i'd probably go straight in for the new barrel and pay to have the sights put on.
we'll see! There are several barrels on ebay currently (its where I just got this one)
 

Bruce Drake

Active Member
can i have that 340 barrel when your done with it?
i've got a 340 i'd like to make shoot 1/2" groups... LOL

anyway... i'd probably go straight in for the new barrel and pay to have the sights put on.
Once we can prove the Savage locknut theory, There will be a new barrel put on it. A Savage 340 barrel in 30-30 will not be a match accurate barrel but it gets the rifle shooting again.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
many of them have pretty darn good barrels.
my 340 in 30-30 with open sights will shoot cast just as well as my 700 in 8 mauser with jacketed bullets and a scope on it.
 

Bruce Drake

Active Member
many of them have pretty darn good barrels.
my 340 in 30-30 with open sights will shoot cast just as well as my 700 in 8 mauser with jacketed bullets and a scope on it.
I've got a plan to get a new barrel in actual 303 British put on it for its eventual rebuild as a "Bisley Rifle" And if the savage locknut/barrel sleeve option works, I'll probably re-activate another P14 action I have on the shelf with a custom barrel in 25-303 (since I have the dies) or potentially a 7mm-303 wildcat based off the work another NRA highpower shooter has done with a No4 Enfield a few decades back that he calls a 7mm Confederate (I'll probably keep it labelled as a 7mm-303 since I'm a Yankee) if I can convince PTG to cut a chamber reamer for it (the original wildcatter reformed his 303 brit brass with a 7x57 die set.
Sadly, Gunsmiths are getting scarce and I may eventually be forced to resource my own lathe work in the future :(
 

fiver

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they done got real scarce around here quite some time back.
i know one personally that was in the guild and some of his work was featured on the cover of stuff like Rifle magazine.
he gave it up to go drive a truck in north Dakota for a while, when he come back he went out to the mine.
hate to see talent like that go to waste, but,, money is money.