Mold for paper patching

Ian

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I designed a couple and had Tom of Accurate Molds make them both. They are for sale, I don't paper patch anymore since powder coating does all that for me. The numbers are AM 30-160P and 30-190P if I recall, both two cavity aluminum. I used both in the .30-'06 and the 160 in the .308. The moulds require no sizing. If I dig I might have patch templates still. If interested I'll post pictures.
 

Thumbcocker

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Very interested. Does powder coat get the same accuracy and velocity as pp? My theory is I have most of what I need to pp so I am leaning that way.
 

Ian

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For the most part, I got slightly better accuracy with PP at full velocity, but I used buffer and really slow powders and almost no neck tension. That is to say the PP was consistently under MOA once I got it dialed in and PC averages about 1.5 MOA at full power from my rifles. Gotta grab some dinner and family time, will post photos in a bit.
 

Ian

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I remembered wrong, one is brass.

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I literally today at lunch melted down every casting I had from these, got sick of storing them after a decade. I did manage to find some wrapped ones though.

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Somewhere I have some target photos from the '06.
 

Ian

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I can't seem to find any targets from the .30s but here's one from my .270 Winchester using basically the same techniques.

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I did find a shot of the patch pattern, note the ends are not cut parallel because the bullet is a "bore rider" of sorts which requires the wet patch be stretched slightly to shrink tight on the nose and shoulder and still have an even gap on the patch ends with no overlap.



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CZ93X62

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I don't paint or powder-coat bullets, but I have done some paper-patching. Best results came in 9.3 x 62 Mauser, 30-06, and 8 x 57 Mauser. 30/30 WCF, 38/55, and 45/70.......not so much. My belief--the successful calibers/rifles have gently-sloped leades/rifling origins; the less-successful calibers all have abrupt leade angles. That is called a CLUE at my old job site. Pure lead bullets at 2000 FPS, no gas checks, and accuracy close to 1.0 MOA.

Get (from Wolfe Publications) Paul Matthews' book The Paper Jacket. It is a wealth of information on the subject.

Cores, per caliber, pure lead--

30-06/ Lyman #301618, gifted by a member at the old site. 2 wraps of wet 9# bond paper;

8 x 75/ Lee .316" x 200 grain spitzer, custom mould for my fat-body. 2 wraps of 9# bond paper;

9.3 x 62/ Lyman #358430 195 grain RN, 2 wraps of 9# bond paper.
 
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Ian

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Pdawg Shooter, Nobade, and I both did a lot of posting on Boolits years ago, I think there's still a sticky thread there with my methods which is basically Pdawg/Paul Matthews methods plus using buffer.
 

CZ93X62

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Did you ever use a cigarette roller to assist with the wrapping?

Longer bullets are easier to roll than shorter bullets. Bullets smaller than 30 caliber are kind of a PITA; I tried rolling some NEI 100 grain 25 caliber bullets (#257312) into 6.5mm bullets........big hands were my downfall.
 

Ian

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I'd have to go open the book but I think it was Matthews who mentioned it, and I wouldn't be surprised if Peter did his dry patches that way. I have a couple of rollers but a proper patching board is what worked best for me. In a pinch they can be rolled on a table near the edge, but board is better because it will have a saw cut in it to lay the bullet and a clean, square edge on the front which makes it easy to pick up the tail of the patch.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
301618 172 or 212 gr either a 70s Lyman or new NOE version . NOE comes/came w/w/o a check shank to fold or not .

I shot a few 308299U sized .301 also with good results .

.258 up to .265
.266 up to .272
.277 up to .284
.301 up to .308
.310 up to .318
.448 up to .451
.452/4 up to .458/9
Green bar matrix printer paper .
I mostly dry patch with a short folded tail . Greasy finger wipe of exposed paper with my Darrs lube . I don't lube until the bore slicks up . I did slick the whole patch for some I took on a winter hunt . In an accidental water test they proved out to be weather proof down to 20° and submerged .
 

fiver

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maybe it was 303 doing the dry patches around a pencil then inserting the core.
god,, it's been a long time.

funny this should pop up today.
i was looking at the last double handful of PP bullets i put together for my Jackies' 7.7 Jap. trying to decide whether to re-melt them or load them in something.