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Rally

NC Minnesota
There is more to the story than the wolves actually eating Elk, Deer, and Moose. Studies are out there being done that report the real damage is from the stress to does being run by wolves and actually causing them to abort. If interested check out cow to calf ratios, from the past to present. Won't see that on the Disney channel. Better stop there!
 

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California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Didn't I read that the re-introduced Idaho wolves have found their way to California?
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Haven't seen either Kevin, but have seen two Turkeys there. Should be some grouse drumming, but haven't heard any yet.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
they [the wolves] tore up one of my favorite grouse canyons.
it was pretty hard to watch the progression of first the deer dwindling, then the few moose there disappeared.
the cows used to come into the spring there but wouldn't even come up the draw, and the one time I took my dog Hailey with me to check out the spring [mid-summer] they took one look at her and bailed.
they didn't even circle/line up like they do with a coyote they just seen her and was gone.

it wasn't another year and the grouse hunting went from shooting a limit of 4 for 2-3 people, 2-3 times a year, to maybe seeing a grouse per trip.
at one point I didn't even hunt them in the canyon.
I'd sit down by the lower spring under a big pine tree and wait for them to come down the trail off the ridge, then go kick them up from the underbrush by the upper spring.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Nah, couldn't be anything to do with the wolves. They just eat the old and crippled, just ask the bunny huggers!
How's your cat population in that valley?
 
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fiver

Well-Known Member
uhh yeah...LOL
I didn't see a female chasing [slowly at a trot] a group of does and fawns up a draw until their tongues were hanging out.
then a grey flash come from about 3/4's the way up that draw and one less deer popped out in the saddle about 175yds. away from me at a much faster disorganized rate either.
I also didn't shoot that female when it paused to see if something come back her direction during the commotion..
the other one [male?] had to have crossed right below me about 200 yds. away and I never seen it, but I was deer hunting at the time so my attention was on them.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
462,
I don't know about the western packs, much more than what I hear from other trappers. We have a smaller wolf here, but plenty of them, so if you can get the permits, I'd be more than happy to send you some! Ofcourse that would require several years and several million dollars to finance the study to determine if that would be feasible!! LOL
In fact, if you want to have the ones howling west of my house now, and have my dogs responding, I'd appreciate it.
 
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RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Nah, couldn't be anything to do with the wolves. They just eat the old and crippled, just ask the bunny huggers!
How's your cat population in that valley?
There are no feral cats any more, nor are there many coyotes. The only coyotes left are the one that live in or close to town.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
That mirrors conditions here Ric. Nobody will run hounds either, if they ever want to see them again. Legally, if you are bird hunting and a wolf attacks your dog, you can't shoot the wolf, but in the real world...…..
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Moved some more water today. This pond is on the East side of the contract, has a lower pool which I already drained. There are two houses on this pond like the one pictured. Most of the water here should be gone in a couple days, then I go farther upstream and work on the next two ponds in the flowage. The knats were bad today and made working there kinda tough. They usually only last a couple weeks. Only three tics today. Time to get the bug spray out with mid 60's to low 70's forecast this next week.578E8236-E2D2-4FB4-BE4C-A7FBA6B3472B.jpegThis pond is on the West side of the contract and the second pond up from the control dam. Only took about 10 minutes once I had it opened up to fill the lower pool, which is pictured drained in the picture above.
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6515DA00-E8B8-4A43-8885-0A68BA50EE69.jpegHad a surprise in one of my snares today. A big old snapper, not too long out of the mud. Had it snared by the head, and releasing it was kinda interesting. Believe it or not it never snapped at me once, and I was able to cut the snare off it and turn it loose. They are pretty sluggish this time of year, but can be a real pain later on in the summer once their metabolism has a chance to kick in. This one smelled pretty strong from being in hibernation. The snare is 9 feet long with a 900# inline swivel, with the snare anchored around that big log in the water. That long shadow in the picture is a pole I stand up in deep water and push into the bottom. When a beaver gets caught it swims out and around the pole and drowns. A turtle isn't that active and just noses into the mud or surfaces and waits my return, none the worse for wear. He did "moan" at me a couple times after I let him go.6A5340E0-0688-4601-A891-066763CB2D5B.jpeg77C16918-5AD7-4F0E-B356-0E6D37137826.jpegJust caught one two year old beaver today, a migrant trying to find a new home, this is dispersal time for them, and into the end of July or so, with the females usually the last to disperse. Will be moving into a couple new ponds in a couple days.B64D636A-12AB-4F21-829B-01973B2C51F4.jpeg
 
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fiver

Well-Known Member
i think it's cause he got the other 17... that and a 2 YO would be booted out of the pond to make way for the new Pups coming in soon.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
Because I was draining the pond after not being repaired, and it was coming from another area when I caught it. I tend to place traps/ snares at entry or feeder streams/ dam crossovers, and can tell by position of the animals foot in a trap or snare what direction it came from. This time of year beaver are real susceptible to castor based lures. They present as a territorial marker for local beaver, and interest traveling beaver because they tell them the make up of the local beaver, meaning whether it is a male that is going to want to fight, or a lonesome female. An unmarked area lets the travelers know the area has not been colonized and free for the defending. Males the size of that last one pictured, are looking for open areas and they disperse earlier than the females the same size. They set up shop and the traveling females meet them enroute ,or even along the way. Pretty common this time of year to catch a male that size, that has many bites from getting chewed up by larger males, defending an established colony, because the alpha females are full of pups now. Some bites can also be from their own parents wanting them to leave the colony before the new pups arrive. It's common in rivers to see beaver traveling during the daylight hours, to avoid larger males in established colonies/ areas.
The problem with contracts this time of year, is that I'm trying to clear out the local population which creates a void. The travelers think that's pretty neat, and all they have to do is repair the dam and set up shop! I have completion dates on these type contracts, and guarantee my work, so I have to keep them out until those dates. The traps/snares at the entry points do a pretty good job taking care of the dispersing beaver, but some areas have so many beaver in the surrounding areas, and rivers are like interstates, so bidding some contracts is a gamble. I took the beaver out of these ponds in four days (two checks) but have already caught two beaver trying to enter these two ponds on ether end of the contract. Tomorrow I move into some ponds in the interior of the contract, while maintaining traps at the entry points, to help keep the outside ponds clear and water flowing. Meanwhile, there will probably be a couple hundred beaver migrating up and down the river this flowage drains into, in the next couple weeks.
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
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I was back in the contract today. Pictured above is the main pond side of the contract, the one I opened up a couple days ago. It drained well and there were nine Canadian geese and three Mallards there today. They love the new grass shoots just peaking through. If you look top left, there is three Birch trees leaning to the left. That is where the next dam is
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This pic is standing on the main dam of the East pond looking West.08520F8F-1DB6-4DD6-84F1-FA52B4A4BAFE.jpeg
This is also the East pond but looking North over main dam.0B469330-64A7-4958-88CC-69794C7B4F76.jpeg
This is looking East from main dam over secondary pond. If you look to the farthest tree line, that is where the Prairie River is, the beaver dispersal interstate for this area. Most likely spot to have trouble with dispersing beaver later.View attachment 14888425C4B92-BD90-43A0-A750-523197D7F6ED.jpeg
This pic is the next pond NW or upstream from the East pond. The dam is horse shoe shaped and goes from hillside to hillside, aproximately 60 yards in length. If you also look farther downstream there is another dam the same size, but the ice took out a chunk of it and partially drained the secondary pond.48C0DBC2-35A5-4281-AA85-CA831962516A.jpeg
This pic is looking over the pond towards the West. The beavers house is way out there at the edge of the bog. Set five traps here today. Didn’t look like a lot of activity, but I’ll know more in a couple days.46CAC41A-C7EF-484B-B571-94E576F7C741.jpeg
This is the kinda stuff I had to walk through to get there. Wind blow down with regrowth in it, and no shortage of tics and knats.1E521371-3F97-4CA6-B3D0-D765CF78FEE5.jpegThis is looking East from dam or upstream from main West pond. Walked in here also today and set four traps.3DD0CC7A-181D-4BF7-81BF-A1DA2667410F.jpeg
This pic is looking back West over the pond towards the main West pond or upstream. If you look top left you can see the three leaning Birch trees and the dam I spoke of earlier. This pond is where I think the beaver I caught two days ago came from, and in fact, I caught his mate today.
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fiver

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the edge of that dam looks like it has been there long enough to almost look like a natural formation.