Mystery Pump Action Rifle--I Am Stumped

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
An old partner from work sent me some pics today of a pump action rifle via Facebook that he is trying to ID as to make, model, caliber, and nation of origin. It is entirely outside my experience, and I asked him to pivot the photos to my E-mail so that I can cast about to get it ID'ed.

Here goes--in overall appearance, it has passing resemblance to a Winchester Model 1906 22 rimfire, but the mag tube looks like it belongs on a 12 gauge shotgun. Rifle barrel form is not unusual. The ejection port looks very much like a Marlin 336 port, except that it is located on the receiver's top surface. The receiver bottom has a Mauser-type pivoting floorplate that "looks pregnant"; when the floorplate is pivoted downward a leaf-type follower spring and follower travels in the same arc as the follower. It suggests Mosin-Nagant lineage. The slide handle and crescent buttplate are a yellow metal and ornately stamped.

Any assistance that can be lent would be appreciated. Thank you!
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Not from FB--that exceeds my puter savvy considerably. Vern will be E-mailing them to me tomorrow, and I will see if someone can pivot the E-mailed pics onto this site for me.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Most photos online can be grabbed by right clicking on them, and then selecting
"copy", the going to your subdirectory where you want to put it, with the cursor in
the window of that subdirectory and type "Ctrl V" which will paste the file there. Or,
open MS Paint, on all recent Windows machines and hit the "Paste" icon in the upper left,
then save the file using Paint's "save as' capability.

Bill
 

Ian

Notorious member
If that fails, find the "print screen" button on your keyboard to take a screen shot of the picture you are viewing, then paste to a blank Paint file, crop the photo to get rid of the taskbars and info therin, save as whatever you want, and upload to the forum using the attach file button.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Here are the photos I have currently. See what y'all think!
 

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Rick H

Well-Known Member
Wow, that is a very unique piece. Is that engraved Brass/bronze on the buttplate and forend?
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Never saw anything like that. The buttplate and pump grip would seem to be
custom made additions, at first imagining. Very unusual.

Any markings at all?

Bill
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
No markings at all--just some initials on the buttplate that I can't make out due to photo quality. No import marks--no proof marks--no caliber marking--no serial number--zero/zip/nada.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
The no markings makes me think some sort of a prototype, never produced in quantity, never
tested or approved by any government. Might be some really capable machinist/gunsmith
had some ideas and turned them into reality. Not the only time that has happened.

Bill
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
Bill,

I'm with you !
That is as good a guess as I could offer also.

Ben
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
that's a lot of work for a home machinist especially for a rifle with some age on it.
the receiver looks to be milled from one solid piece, and a magazine like Savage used would have been a whole lot simpler.
it really looks like someone's attempt to simplify the Colt lightning.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
I am waiting on more info and better pics, he hasn't written or called back yet. His wife is Argentine, IIRC. It may be from that area of the world.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
It is a Standard Arms Company from Wilmington DE. It is reviewed in Sharps The Rifle in America page 84.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
OK, now, I still wonder what happened to the bbl markings? The barrel on the one in Ian's
video clearly show plenty of info on the bbl. Is this one a pump only or SA/pump version?

I really do enjoy Forgotten Weapons, and have spend more than a few evenings just perusing
the interesting videos of "the other Ian".

Bill