New 1911

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
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Wife and I are in Minneapolis for a concert. On the way we stopped at Cabelas. They had a new Dan Wesson Valor with the black duty finish in 45 ACP. I asked, very easy to have it transferred to Nebraska Cabelas for pickup.
Should get it next weekend.

Everything I hear is that DW makes a very good 1911.
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I just looked those up Brad. Slick looking pistol. Can't wait to hear how it shoots for you.
 

smokeywolf

Well-Known Member
I can vouch for the positive opinions on the Dan Wesson 1911. Bought one a bit over a year ago. A Guardian in 45 ACP with "black duty finish". Some have said that the brand spankin' new DW 1911 tolerances might seem a bit tight, but put 400-500 rounds through it and it should feel snug, but not tooooo snug.

Can't swear to it, but read somewhere that CZ recommends TW25B grease for their 1911. Been using it on the old circa 1917 Colt and the newer DW 1911. Seems OK.
I've always used Lubriplate on the Colt 1911. I think this recommendation might have something to do with the "black duty finish" on the DW.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Lubriplate is the silver colored greasy stuff, right? I have a tube someplace, thanks for reminding me.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Lubriplate is the silver colored greasy stuff, right? I have a tube someplace, thanks for reminding me.

Lubriplate has dozens of products. I think generally regarding guns people mean 130-A commonly used to grease the bolt roller and raceways of the M-14, silver can with black lettering, beige calcium-based stuff.
 

smokeywolf

Well-Known Member
I've read (not sure of credibility) that Lubriplate 130A was developed for the Garand and was in the small plastic containers issued with the Garand during WW II. Was also used for the GI issue 1911s. One of the main attributes was resistance to heat and water.

I also use a different grade/formula of Lubriplate that comes in a tube and screws into the side of the head of my Bridgeport mill (screw it in, squeeze, unscrew). Specified in the Bridgeport owner's manual.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
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I usually use a decent oil on the rails. In summer I may use a little red grease but in winter always oil.
I figure a range gun isn’t going to see had use, etc so anything that lubricates is good.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
On the topic of firearm lubricants and cleaning products, everyone and their brother has their favorite, super-duper, extra special oil, grease, cleaner, whatever.

For sliding surfaces under some pressure (like sears) I use some cheap white lithium grease. For slide rails I use Lubriplate number 105 Engine assembly grease. It is a very lightweight grease and works well even in low temperatures.

The Lubriplate used for M1 and M14 bolts is Lubriplate 130-A, also a good choice but it is slightly heavier (thicker) than 105.

In warm temperatures 130-A is fine but I wouldn’t trust it on pistol slide rails in cold temps. In really cold temperatures, I would avoid any grease on slide rails and stick with a very light oil.

For a general-purpose gun oil that will work in any temperature, I like Clenzoil. Everyone has their preference, but I have NEVER experienced a failure with CLenzoil from heat or cold.

For long term storage of ferrous metals, I trust RIG. For rust prevention Cosmoline is a close second, but it is harder to find these days.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Lubriplate has dozens of products. I think generally regarding guns people mean 130-A commonly used to grease the bolt roller and raceways of the M-14, silver can with black lettering, beige calcium-based stuff.
Well, now I'm going to have to try and find the tube! It was my dads and he got it from some guy that worked at GE in Schenectady I think. Had a screw eye stuck in the tip, have to try to remember where it is now.
 

Wiresguy

Active Member
Lubricants for the Dan Wesson 1911's have been the subject of many heated discussions on some of the 1911 forums.

DW specifies lubes to use and some NOT to use. The main issue seems to be the effects of some of the lubes on the Duty finish, rather than lubrication qualities.

I use FP-10 on my DW Valor since it was locally available and is one of the recommended lubes. Don't like the smell of it, though.

I think you will enjoy that 1911.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Full size. I don’t intend to carry it so full size makes more sense.

I almost got a Guardian in 38 super. Only a 4” barrel and a bobbed mainspring g housing. Both big downers to me.

On a high note, I am well set up for 45 acp so that makes sense.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Holy crap this thing is sweet! Barrel bushing locks up tight, no wiggle of slide on frame. Trigger is better than my Gold Cup. Love the small radius on the firing pin stop, should help manage recoil well. Not as square as a custom fit but way better than the ski slope Colt uses. The G10 grips and fine checkering on main spring housing and front of grip frame should help with sweaty hands.

I have a feeling this is gonna be a shooter.
 

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