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CZ93X62
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Welcome aboard, Dr. Mac.
I shift to LSS' Carnauba Red once velocities exceed ~1700 FPS. 50/50 Alox beeswax does OK up to that point, mindful that my conditions are seldom cold or wet/humid (CA and southwestern deserts). I have tried the C/R at lower speeds and in handguns, and it works fine--though it is probably more than is needed for the tasking.
I shift to LSS' Carnauba Red once velocities exceed ~1700 FPS. 50/50 Alox beeswax does OK up to that point, mindful that my conditions are seldom cold or wet/humid (CA and southwestern deserts). I have tried the C/R at lower speeds and in handguns, and it works fine--though it is probably more than is needed for the tasking.
I’ve seen this on some commercial casts. Probably give it a try. Thanks.
Bret4207
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Welcome Dr Mac. First thing to remember with commercial cast is that the product is produced at least cost, with shipping damage in mind. IOW, they want the bullets arriving in an un-dinged up state, so they make them "hard" and they want all the lube in the groove when they get to the end user too. They don't want a brown truck parked in a hot Arizona parking lot for 2 days to have all the lube slouch off. Used to be that happened. So now they use hard, crayon type lubes. And of course a flashy color adds to sales! Truth is, most of the softer lubes work fine up into the 2K fps range in many guns, some work beyond that in the right combination. I'd suggest you do your research, ask question of people you trust with real world experience and try it and see. What commercial caster do is seldom needed, wanted or required for home based casters.
What’s your experience with Lyman’s Orange Magic? It seemed a little sticky and messy for my tastes. Should I learn to live with sticky lubes or get something else.
Pistolero
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Sticky and a bit messy is the sign of a good conventional bullet lube. The commercial hard
lubes are selected more because they will survive boxing and shipping than for any good
lubricating qualities.
Another alternative is Ben's Liquid Lube.....although one of the key ingredients has been taken off
of the market. I bought several containers of it.
I am not sure if Ben has worked out a replacement for the discontinued floor wax.
Ben- is there an updated BLL?
It results in a sticky liquid which you slosh the bullets in a very small quantity, swirling them in
a plastic container (butter tub or similar) to coat them. Then let them dry. This thin film is still
slightly stick when dry but is an adequate lube for many of the less demanding cartridges and
loads.
lubes are selected more because they will survive boxing and shipping than for any good
lubricating qualities.
Another alternative is Ben's Liquid Lube.....although one of the key ingredients has been taken off
of the market. I bought several containers of it.
I am not sure if Ben has worked out a replacement for the discontinued floor wax.
Ben- is there an updated BLL?
It results in a sticky liquid which you slosh the bullets in a very small quantity, swirling them in
a plastic container (butter tub or similar) to coat them. Then let them dry. This thin film is still
slightly stick when dry but is an adequate lube for many of the less demanding cartridges and
loads.
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fiver
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stuff like orange magic is well umm overpriced.
it's a good enough lube for 500 bullets a year or whatever.
if your gonna shoot much and in various temperatures your gonna eventually end up making/modifying your own or using 2 different lubes.
carnuba red is fine above 45-F or so and up till about 105-F.[when it starts flowing from ambient temperature]
the BAC [beeswax alox and carnuba] from glen and leah [whitelabel lubes] is a good lube but usually requires you burn a shot or two into the berm before shooting for group.
without going into a 5 page discussion on CORE condition and the why's i'll let it sit at that comment.
the price is also more than reasonable.
it's a good enough lube for 500 bullets a year or whatever.
if your gonna shoot much and in various temperatures your gonna eventually end up making/modifying your own or using 2 different lubes.
carnuba red is fine above 45-F or so and up till about 105-F.[when it starts flowing from ambient temperature]
the BAC [beeswax alox and carnuba] from glen and leah [whitelabel lubes] is a good lube but usually requires you burn a shot or two into the berm before shooting for group.
without going into a 5 page discussion on CORE condition and the why's i'll let it sit at that comment.
the price is also more than reasonable.