New v. Old or Hercules 2400 v. Alliant 2400

[Reloader762]

I shoot lots of 2400, it's my favorite powder for cast lead 357 Mag. loads and it's one of my go-to powder in my cast bullet rifle loads. I haven't had any of the old Hercules 2400 in many years. Wish I had kept a few of the old paper tube container like 2400, Unique or Reloader #7.

 

[fiver]

just to make Ian wince.
the addition of some Alox [10-15% and no more] usually cleans up the down the pipe issues with a lot of lubes.

but I'd be more inclined to lean towards what Jon is saying.
I'm still amazed at how little lube a bullet really needs, of course it has to work but in no way is it a band aid.

 

[Winelover]

insert the chain jerky emoji here.... Lol

it's not that sensitive Matt.
it's just that I could have fixed the muzzle thing for you if you were using simple lube.

Your wish is my command.

 

[Winelover]

I like 2400 having loaded many pounds of both the Hercules and Alliant versions. Frankly I hold the opinion that any differences are not more than those found in lot to lot variation. If one is any cleaner than another I have not noticed. Being old school, I wash my hands and clean my firearms as an article of faith.

This..............I haven't even adjusted my loads and still use the once recommended magnum primers. Just maybe those mag primers keep turning those granules.

 

[Cadillac Jeff]

I like the new 2400.
& YUP it turns those granules------------ to smoke


Jeff

 

[462]

This..............I haven't even adjusted my loads and still use the once recommended magnum primers. Just maybe those mag primers keep turning those granules.

Brad stopped me in time, before I started turning granules, in an attempt to eliminate the unburned ones from my .357 Magnum load of 2400 and regular primers.

After a two day granule turning respite, my head finally stopped hurting. Now, I have decide whether I should start using magnum primers in a magnum cartridge, rather than regular primers designed for non-magnum cartridges, but which the reloading manuals call for, or live with the unturned, flyer causing granules.

Is there an emoji for a head that's about to explode?

 

[fiver]

I'm sure there's one out there somewhere.
probably a triggered snowflake,,, so I'm not gonna go look.


you did realize you could turn all your powder by simply storing your ammo bullet side down, then loading it into the gun bullet side down.
it was all previously put in the case bullet side up so the initial flip does the trick and you just have to keep it that way.
or by storing it horizontal [half flip] and rolling it all over to complete the sequence before inserting it into the magazine.

 

[462]

I've seen overwhelming evidence that the horizontal storage method doesn't work. A range regular brings his handloads to the range in baggies, and his groups are as large as the black rifle spray and pray crowd. Nope, horizontal is out.
A method that may work, though, is to store the rounds alternately, half bullet up, half bullet down, then do back to a back to back test.

 

[fiver]

ooohhh.
so that's why Winchester packed their 50 round boxes of 22lr and 25-20 etc. half up and half down.
it was so you could shoot all the down ones first then flip the box over to get the same results, or shoot them right side up if you didn't like the results you were getting, then flip the box over to get the other back on track.

I really should have read the instructions.

 

[Rally]

And all this time I thought powder baffles turned all those granules over! Learn something new every day!

 

[L Ross]

I'm baffled.

 

[JonB]

SNIP...

Is there an emoji for a head that's about to explode?

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/160/facebook/105/shocked-face-with-exploding-head_1f92f.png

 

[Brad]

I'm baffled.

That is a good thing, keeps your powder charges more consistent.

 

[Ian]

I'm baffled too. It makes my charges more consistent and my guns and vehicles more quiet.

 

[Brad]

No Ian, that is you being muffled. Quite common in married men. Seems to enhance marital bliss. Fiver wouldn’t know....

 

[462]

That's it, Jon.

ooohhh.
so that's why Winchester packed their 50 round boxes of 22lr and 25-20 etc. half up and half down.
it was so you could shoot all the down ones first then flip the box over to get the same results, or shoot them right side up if you didn't like the results you were getting, then flip the box over to get the other back on track.

Exactly.

 

[fiver]

or it might be because my filter is broke and her cry button doesn't work on me.

 

[CZ93X62]

You guys are in rare form. But now for the truth of the matter--ball/spherical powders are the easiest powder kernels to have turn over of all. Being suspended in ball bearings enhances this trait greatly. You'll thank me later.

 

[Missionary]

Well I am not baffled and like 296 dipped for our 41 Dan Wesson scooped . That way there is no need of orientation just let them float in and seek their natural polar orientation.

 

[Brad]

Speaking of polar.......

Shouldn't a polar bear dissolve in water rather than float? Wouldn’t a nonpolar bear be the one that floats on the surface?