No More Johnson's Paste Wax

MW65

Wetside, Oregon
What doesn't work as a tumble lube is old-school butchers wax (by volume, 50/50 beeswax/turpentine). Picks up every bit of dust within 10'.
I make Gunny's paste for the milsurp stocks... equal turp, beeswax, and linseed oil. Yup... not sure how that linseed oil would work as a lube!!
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
SDS for JPW says mostly Stoddard solvent, approaching 100%. The rest is paraffin and hydrocarbon waxes. My guess is any other brand of furniture or floor paste wax will be damn close. When you look at JPW it looks like beeswax based lube. Yeah, I have an old can too.

Pretty much the same stuff in the Minwax version, but Minwax is harder and I prefer it for furniture and other wood-working projects. I'd venture a guess that it would also suit me better in tumble lube, because I prefer it to require heating to make it runny, rather than it start runny. Dries harder, drier, faster that way.

If this discontinuation is by result of regulatory folly, then the alternates will go away too. If it's just a SCJ thing, maybe the alternates will be available, but I'd bet they all go away because of the VOC content.

I can honestly say that outside of good old Lemon Pledge, which I'm sure doesn't count, I have never waxed any furniture, nor do I know anyone personally that I can think of that has ever waxed any furniture. Floors, yes, but that was liquid wax the Corps told us to use. I haven't waxed a car since I got out of the body shop in the early 80's.

Life is good, wax-wise. Not so hot for Bens Lube though!

I still wax furniture that I make. Not much of a market supporter in that I'm still working out of a 30yo can though.

In the Army, we used TONS of JPW on the floors - "sweep, mop-n-buff" EVERY morning, EVERY floor, except the tile floors in the latrines. The best applicator was a lone wool-blend, issue sock.

Probably did more for character-building and discipline that the floors. I still remember having to knock heads together each time I saw a flaming can of JPW sitting unattended in the middle of a hallway floor. Someone would light it to make it easier to POUR on the floor, get distracted by cartoons or soap operas and forget they'd set it on fire.

The Infantry draws a..... "creatively adventuresome" crowd. ;)
 
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smokeywolf

Well-Known Member
Has anybody here used or incorporated the paraffin and microcrystalline wax used on Babybel cheese, in a bullet lube recipe? Found a gallon ziploc bag in the basement full of Babybel cheese wax that I had Mom and the kids save for me about 10 years ago. Was going to explore the possibility of incorporating that into a lube recipe.
 

todd

Well-Known Member
Probably did more for character-building and discipline that the floors. I still remember having to knock heads together each time I saw a flaming can of JPW sitting unattended in the middle of a hallway floor. Someone would light it to make it easier to POUR on the floor, get distracted by cartoons or soap operas and forget they'd set it on fire.

The Infantry draws a..... "creatively adventuresome" crowd. ;)


i can still remember using a lighter and Kiwi black boot polish!!!!!!!! the Army still did the sweep, mop and buff every day in the '90s too. the Engineers had one (whistles uncomfortably) had one too.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Yep, Kiwi black shoe polish, spit, a cotton rag, and Mop and Glow floor wax got my boots shiny enough for the sergeant to wiggle his fingers, from waist height, and see their reflections. Lighter fluid and a Zippo removed it all, when it cracked, and the process started again.
 

Michael

Active Member. Uh/What
Just a thought.. would any of the carnauba based car waxes work, maybe.. provided they don't contain any abrasives. Just curious, never hurts to ask.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Pretty much the same stuff in the Minwax version, but Minwax is harder and I prefer it for furniture and other wood-working projects. I'd venture a guess that it would also suit me better in tumble lube, because I prefer it to require heating to make it runny, rather than it start runny. Dries harder, drier, faster that way.

If this discontinuation is by result of regulatory folly, then the alternates will go away too. If it's just a SCJ thing, maybe the alternates will be available, but I'd bet they all go away because of the VOC content.



I still wax furniture that I make. Not much of a market supporter in that I'm still working out of a 30yo can though.

In the Army, we used TONS of JPW on the floors - "sweep, mop-n-buff" EVERY morning, EVERY floor, except the tile floors in the latrines. The best applicator was a lone wool-blend, issue sock.

Probably did more for character-building and discipline that the floors. I still remember having to knock heads together each time I saw a flaming can of JPW sitting unattended in the middle of a hallway floor. Someone would light it to make it easier to POUR on the floor, get distracted by cartoons or soap operas and forget they'd set it on fire.

The Infantry draws a..... "creatively adventuresome" crowd. ;)
You had WOOD floors? Everything we had was industrial tile, not the ceramic stuff, the linoleum type. If it was waxed, it was a liquid goop out of a grey 5 gallon bucket. Most never got waxed, just mopped over and over and over.
 

MW65

Wetside, Oregon
Has anybody here used or incorporated the paraffin and microcrystalline wax used on Babybel cheese, in a bullet lube recipe? Found a gallon ziploc bag in the basement full of Babybel cheese wax that I had Mom and the kids save for me about 10 years ago. Was going to explore the possibility of incorporating that into a lube recipe.
Going to give it a try soon!!!
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Pretty much the same stuff in the Minwax version, but Minwax is harder and I prefer it for furniture and other wood-working projects. I'd venture a guess that it would also suit me better in tumble lube, because I prefer it to require heating to make it runny, rather than it start runny. Dries harder, drier, faster that way.

If this discontinuation is by result of regulatory folly, then the alternates will go away too. If it's just a SCJ thing, maybe the alternates will be available, but I'd bet they all go away because of the VOC content.



I still wax furniture that I make. Not much of a market supporter in that I'm still working out of a 30yo can though.

In the Army, we used TONS of JPW on the floors - "sweep, mop-n-buff" EVERY morning, EVERY floor, except the tile floors in the latrines. The best applicator was a lone wool-blend, issue sock.

Probably did more for character-building and discipline that the floors. I still remember having to knock heads together each time I saw a flaming can of JPW sitting unattended in the middle of a hallway floor. Someone would light it to make it easier to POUR on the floor, get distracted by cartoons or soap operas and forget they'd set it on fire.

The Infantry draws a..... "creatively adventuresome" crowd. ;)
I did that with boot polish too. I think almost all of us did that though.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
You had WOOD floors? Everything we had was industrial tile, not the ceramic stuff, the linoleum type. If it was waxed, it was a liquid goop out of a grey 5 gallon bucket. Most never got waxed, just mopped over and over and over.
No.

Well, in some OLD barracks, yes, but in the modern buildings, we had "tile" floors. Not ceramic tile, like in the latrines, but the 12" squares made of who knows what.

Had to strip it once in a while too - plenty to keep knuckleheads busy.
 

JustJim

Well-Known Member
Just a thought.. would any of the carnauba based car waxes work, maybe.. provided they don't contain any abrasives. Just curious, never hurts to ask.
Almost all car waxes contain abrasives to remove dirt and oxidation of the old paint. I tried one once, filling the lube grooves of some bullets; there was no visible damage to the bore but I only did a few hundred rounds.
 

oscarflytyer

Well-Known Member
guess I am lucky... still have 4-5 cans of the liquid, and at least one partial can of paste. Have to stop by the local box store tomo and see if I can score another can or two of the paste
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Well, in some OLD barracks, yes, but in the modern buildings, we had "tile" floors. Not ceramic tile, like in the latrines, but the 12" squares made of who knows what. Had to strip it once in a while too - plenty to keep knuckleheads busy.
Did Basic and AIT at Fort Polk, LA, aka Camp Polk. Some of the barracks were WW1 with pine floors that had to be polished. The WW2 barracks, had 4X4 squares of plywood (?) with reddish linoleum on top. All I know is that the DDT to keep the bugs down made keeping a "strike" floor impossible since they sprayed every day.
 

Spindrift

Well-Known Member
Concerning the Babybel wax wrapping, I actually have some in my bullet lube- but only a minor component (it has lots of components). My thought was, it could make the lube more "grippy". The lube works very well for me, but it might work just as well without the cheese wrapping, I don't know.
This is how I make it
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I did that with boot polish too. I think almost all of us did that though.
Tried the melted polish. I didn't see any miracle from it. I did/do still have on e horse hair shoe brush that was just better than all the others at leveling out the polish so you could get start on a good spit shine. That was thing with polishing leather, you had to fill the depressions to get a mirror surface.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
No.

Well, in some OLD barracks, yes, but in the modern buildings, we had "tile" floors. Not ceramic tile, like in the latrines, but the 12" squares made of who knows what.

Had to strip it once in a while too - plenty to keep knuckleheads busy.
Okay, but you were using a paste wax meant for wood on a tile floor? Never heard of that. The Army does things in an odd way anyhow.
 
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Rick H

Well-Known Member
Display boots for guard mounts.......LOL.
1: Wear new boots long enough to establish needed creases.
2: Strip the boot to bare leather, sand with 400 grit
3: Reinforce with Ambroid glue paying particular attention to toes and heels
4: Re-sand boots
5: Re-dye the boots
6: Polish with Kiwi and water on cotton balls
7: Head to the NCO club for a beer, while shaking your head and laughing at yourself for being such a boob to go through all that BS just to be the Command Sgt. Major's Driver for a day.
 

quicksylver

Well-Known Member
me being a cabinet maker,probably 50-75% of the furniture in my house I made, stained and finished with JPW, I still polish them with JPW, my milsurps also get the wax treatment then CLP. Ihave about six cans laying around, never used it for lube, I also have about six cans of their LPW, if it wasn't for shipping restrictions I would share them.
 
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