Nose size die on the way.
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waco
Springfield, Oregon
Yup.
waco
Springfield, Oregon
Maybe! Depends on if YouTube shuts us down! LOL.Maybe a video coming?
Kevin Stenberg
Well-Known Member
Just my 2 cents. I found it much easier when BLL is used on the nose of the bullet. Both going in and out. Even when the bullets are PC.
waco
Springfield, Oregon
Well I happen to have a lifetime supply of BLL. I'll give that a try Kevin. Thank you Sir.
I have thirty +, .30 cal. molds right now. Since my molds are made by Cramer, SAECO, RCBS, Lee, Lyman/ IDEAL, NOE, Accurate and others , the variations in drive band diameters , gas shank diameters, and nose diameters are " all over the place ".
Nose diameters of the molds described above vary from .299" - .304".
I have .30 cal. rifles that if you try to chamber a round with a .304" dia. nose, you won't ever get the bolt closed. In a hunting situation or self defense situation , If you did get the bolt closed , you could stick the bullet in the bore,, when you withdraw the case from the chamber, powder will fill the chamber and magazine box....a real mess. Basically rendering the weapon useless until you can get a cleaning rod to tap out the stuck bullet , disassemble the rifle , clean the magazine box and get everything back together. If you've loaded very many cast rifle bullets, you have probably already experienced what I describe above. If the nose is sized properly and you have the correct OAL for your loaded rounds, this will never happen. The beauty of a properly sized nose on your rifle bullets is IMPT ! for proper chambering and also an aid in the accuracy dept.
My .30 cal. rifles each like a different bullet dia. on the drive bands. However some of them have tight bores and won't tolerate a " fat nosed bullet." If the nose of the bullet gets much over .3015" there will be problems in chambering the round. I have a Springfield 1903 Sporter in .308 Win. that isn't very tolerant of cast bullets with a nose of over .301". I hope you are able to see why I ( and possibly you ) need the ability to control nose diameters.
I now have the ability to size a nose to .298", .300 ", .301 ", or .302".
I've always read about sizing the nose of a cast bullet, but considering the fact that RCBS, Lyman, etc . didn't sell the nose sizing dies , I just never got serious about the concept.
Several years ago, I had Buckshot make a .302 nose sizing die for me. It was solid steel that fit the Lyman 450 with the threaded ring that holds the sizer die in place. It has been useful, however I found that I also needed a .300" and a .301" diameter nose sizing die.
I asked Rick Tunnel ( Buckshot ) about making me a cast bullet nose sizing die that would take the Redding bushings . Rick agreed to make the die, the die works flawlessly. This die takes the Redding sizing bushings that are available from MidWay, Graf's , etc.
Here are the bushings, I chose to buy the heat treated, hardened steel bushings since they are about 60% of the price of the Nitride ones. A thin film of lube on about every 3rd bullet going into the sizer ring is all this is needed with these steel bushings. They are polished " mirror smooth".
These 1st photos are of my 1st die that Buckshot made for me, the die body is solid with no lube holes and sizes to a perfectly round .302" diameter.
Here is the die body that Buckshot made me to hold the Redding busings :
Nose diameters of the molds described above vary from .299" - .304".
I have .30 cal. rifles that if you try to chamber a round with a .304" dia. nose, you won't ever get the bolt closed. In a hunting situation or self defense situation , If you did get the bolt closed , you could stick the bullet in the bore,, when you withdraw the case from the chamber, powder will fill the chamber and magazine box....a real mess. Basically rendering the weapon useless until you can get a cleaning rod to tap out the stuck bullet , disassemble the rifle , clean the magazine box and get everything back together. If you've loaded very many cast rifle bullets, you have probably already experienced what I describe above. If the nose is sized properly and you have the correct OAL for your loaded rounds, this will never happen. The beauty of a properly sized nose on your rifle bullets is IMPT ! for proper chambering and also an aid in the accuracy dept.
My .30 cal. rifles each like a different bullet dia. on the drive bands. However some of them have tight bores and won't tolerate a " fat nosed bullet." If the nose of the bullet gets much over .3015" there will be problems in chambering the round. I have a Springfield 1903 Sporter in .308 Win. that isn't very tolerant of cast bullets with a nose of over .301". I hope you are able to see why I ( and possibly you ) need the ability to control nose diameters.
I now have the ability to size a nose to .298", .300 ", .301 ", or .302".
I've always read about sizing the nose of a cast bullet, but considering the fact that RCBS, Lyman, etc . didn't sell the nose sizing dies , I just never got serious about the concept.
Several years ago, I had Buckshot make a .302 nose sizing die for me. It was solid steel that fit the Lyman 450 with the threaded ring that holds the sizer die in place. It has been useful, however I found that I also needed a .300" and a .301" diameter nose sizing die.
I asked Rick Tunnel ( Buckshot ) about making me a cast bullet nose sizing die that would take the Redding bushings . Rick agreed to make the die, the die works flawlessly. This die takes the Redding sizing bushings that are available from MidWay, Graf's , etc.
Here are the bushings, I chose to buy the heat treated, hardened steel bushings since they are about 60% of the price of the Nitride ones. A thin film of lube on about every 3rd bullet going into the sizer ring is all this is needed with these steel bushings. They are polished " mirror smooth".
These 1st photos are of my 1st die that Buckshot made for me, the die body is solid with no lube holes and sizes to a perfectly round .302" diameter.
Here is the die body that Buckshot made me to hold the Redding busings :
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Brother_Love
Well-Known Member
What equipment is needed to use the NOE nose sizer? Thanks
Kevin Stenberg
Well-Known Member
Brother love they work just like a lee push through sizer. But you only push the bullet into the die as far as you want sized. Then you have to push it back out from the top. If i'm not mistaken.
Brother_Love
Well-Known Member
Thanks. I gues I asked the wrong question. Can I use it in a Lyman 45 sizer?
If I use it like aLee push through what do I mount the busing in? I’ve never used one so I guess I’m not seeing this clearly .
If I use it like aLee push through what do I mount the busing in? I’ve never used one so I guess I’m not seeing this clearly .
Rcmaveric
Active Member
The tool from Buckshot that accepts the neck sizer bushing goes into a lubrisizer that has the die retaining nut and accepts Lyman dies. Its nice, you put the bullet in nose first and push down as far as much as you want sized, then lift the handle and the pin pushes the bullet out. The NOE sizer works similarly to the Lee push through sizers and it mounts on a press. Not sure how you get the bullet back out of the NOE sizer though. If you push the bullet in nose first, you got to get it back out some how. With that thought in mind is why i went with Buckshot's nose sizer.