Nose size die on the way.

waco

Springfield, Oregon
Rick. The die is new. Just got it today. Bullets were cast in August.
Probably not the best to be trying.
 

Ian

Notorious member
That little experience should give you some respect for what a 24 bhn bullet experiences when you force it through a hole .002" too small, plus have lands crushing another .004" into it......and all the force to do it is applied to that little bitty base. The metal has to go somewhere, and the base can only take so much pressure before it starts to rivet or bend anywhere but straight in the neck.
 

Rcmaveric

Active Member
The interior edges of that bushing look sharp. Might use a dremel to add slight bevel or counter sink. That way the bushing squeezes the lead and prevent it from shaving. Looks like a nice tool though. I use a bit of bullet lube on the noses. I am sizing the noses down .003 with no problems in or out. My bullets aren't that hard either. Probably around 12 BHN casted about several months ago.
 

S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
Do you really need to size them all the way to the first drive band? Less travel through the die would be less friction coming out.
 

Richinsd

New Member
Put a small radius at the entry to that nose sizing bushing similar to the radius that is on the entry to the base size bushings, but don't need as much. and roll the bullet on a pad loaded with good case lube first. Either STP or lanolin works perfectly. Then the nose size bushing swages rather than shaves. The bullet can then be easily pushed out. No need to do any hammering!

I routinely nose size bore rider castings for .224, 7mm and 30 cal's when the hardness range is between 12-15 Bhn. In one of the 7mm's I go down as far as .003" on the long nose and one would never know it by looking at the bullet.
 
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Brad

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The entry on the bushing does look awful sharp. It won't just size, it is going to shave. It also isn't going to help the bullet stay centered.
 

Ben

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I'm sorry to see that.
Buckshot's dies all had a radiused entry that keep that kind of thing from happening.
Never had a problem with any of Buckshot's work.

Ben
 

Ian

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I assumed that the stamped side of the insert bushing that we see in the photo was the top and that the other side, where the bullet nose enters, would be chamfered and polished.
 

Ian

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That's either poor engineering or the one you got slipped QC minus a couple of operations. I'd call Al and ask him how that's supposed to work with an unbroken edge like that.
 

Ian

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I looked on the NOE site and the photos conveniently show only a direct profile view of the bushings, so it's hard to say if they're intended to be chamfered or not.
 

Intheshop

Banned
I'd want a radius/fillet at the transition of nose to drive band....from a strength standpoint.Admittidly though,because of general practices in other materials.Sharp corners look good but cause structural problems.If the bushing has two sides,just try/test both?Best of luck