Ordered myself a Christmas present

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
Got a email that PSA had a gun come into stock this AM. Checked the website and sure enough it was there. Put it in my cart. Called my ffl to let him know I was ordering a gun and was shipping it to him to do the paperwork.

Go back to the website and said gun was now out of stock. SHOOT! So I look and they have the longer barrel version of the gun I wanted. So what the heck. A 6" 357 mag Taurus Tracker. Yah I know, Taurus. Over the last couple of weeks I have looked at a bunch of revolvers at different dealers. It seems that the quality has improved from my last go around with them.

This is the gun I ordered. https://palmettostatearmory.com/tau...-5-357-mag-38-spl-p-revolver-ss-2-627069.html

So, we will see. I don't have luck with hardly any gun makers anymore. I actually expect there to be something wrong with every gun I buy. So we will see about the lifetime warranty they claim if something is wrong.

And my MP mold and die set showed up today for this gun. Going to cast a bunch tonight to have them ready. I have the pot warming up right now to get the pure lead out of it and set aside for now.
 

waco

Springfield, Oregon
I’ve had a four inch version of that revolver for sometime now. Pretty solid gun. I think I bought mine back in the late 90’s
 

Joshua

Taco Aficionado/Salish Sea Pirate/Part-Time Dragon
I’ve shot a buddies 44 Mag 4” Tracker. I liked it! It had the factory porting and was “pleasant” to shoot with factory ammo. He trader it off to another friend of ours before I had a chance to make my own offer on it.
 

Mitty38

Well-Known Member
Have the Taurus 66, never had an issue.
Hope you have as good luck with yours.
I kinda like the Tracker looks like they are built on the same frame as the 66. But have the support rail on the barrel.
If you haven't experienced them you will love the Hough Grips. Under a full load they are great.
 
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
My most recent Taurus experience has been relatively positive. I got a 3", 357, 605.

Their smaller-frame revolvers have a very heavy pull and there's not much you can do to improve much on that, but it is at least smooth in DA and crisp in SA.

The forcing cone is CAVERNOUS - at least 3/8" long and .375" at the rear. It will not shoot without leading (even long bullets) unless using PC'd, period.

On the other hand, this gun fits me very well, has no fit/finish issues, no misalignment, big gaps, etc. It was even pretty clean inside. The sights are very nice for a fixed-sighted gun. The Hogue grips fit me perfectly - I just wish they were wood instead of rubber, but for the price... I can always use the rubber grips as a "pattern" to make wooden grips... someday.

I've only shot it to 20 yards and have gotten 2" groups with 148 grain WCs doing about 800 fps. 180 WFNs are tight at ten yards, but all over at twenty. 158s seem to be doing as well as the 148s. I can't provide better accuracy details at the moment because my bifocals are causing me enough problems with sights right now that I'm shooting rather poorly with handguns AND rifles.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
So i need to size the bullets to the cylinder right???? I ordered a 0.358" sizer for the Lee APP. I swear I had a 0.358" old style lee sizer. I think I turned it into a 0.503" sizer for my muzzle loader. I can't tell because I turned the smooth part down so I could fit a hose I use for sizing to drop the bullets into a bucket.

I had a disaster this afternoon PC some 158gr swc bullets. I use the silicone mats in a tray to keep the bullets from sticking. Well, all the baked on PC came off the mat and stuck to the bullets. I think what happened was I took the mat out of the pan and tried to clean the baked on powder off the pad. It still sticks to the silicone. I couldn't get it to come off by wadding the pad up into a ball to get it off. Well it came off once I baked the bullets today. I was so mad they all went back into the pot and melted them down. Not only did I do this to the first batch, I put anther batch into the oven while I was getting the first batch out of the water bucket. Then I realized what had happened to the first batch. So after water dropping the second batch, the rest of the baked on PC came off with this batch. That was when I threw them all into the pot. It was almost a whole pot from the lee 4-20.

I wasted the whole day casting and PC'ing. But I did get to break in the new MP 8 cav though. So there is that.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I don’t use mats. I don’t stand them up. I don’t have problems.
 

Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
I think I am going back to parchment paper. Never had any problems with that other than running out. I will say though I did probably 15K or more bullets on that one mat.

I don't stand them either. I dump them into a SS mesh colander out of the tumble jar. Sift the excess powder out then dump them right onto the baking pan. I will say, the finish seems better on the paper than the mats.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I use a wire mesh on the oven racks. I dump onto the mesh, shake to remove excess powder, and bake.
I wonder if some of the problems are powder related- how much does it flow.
 

Mitty38

Well-Known Member
I just throw them in a basket. Accept if they are for a rifle, then I stand them up. Parchment paper works fine. But I have been stuck with paper gas checks when buying the cheap stuff.
 

L Ross

Well-Known Member
Every time I get just about ready to jump into PC a post like this comes along. And the whole jumbled in a basket thing. Don't they get little imperfections on them from touching and lying against the wire mesh?

I understand Tomme was coating pistol bullets and those are especially what I don't understand because BLL works so well, is so simple, and not time consuming.

I was especially interested in coating plain base bullets for the 9.3x57 until I got talked out of it and the mould.
 

Rick H

Well-Known Member
And the whole jumbled in a basket thing. Don't they get little imperfections on them from touching and lying against the wire mesh?
When dumped in they do get little imperfections in the PC but on pistol bullets those imperfections don't make a difference in performance that I can see. They look bad (and sometimes clump together) but they shoot just fine.

I do stand up rifle bullets. I have the silicone ice tray thingy to assist with long skinny bullets but have not used them yet. I use parchment paper with no problems except moving the trays full of bullets and knocking half of them over. Not a problem with 44/45 caliber bullets but the 7mm are a real PITA. I can usually get 40-50 batches of bullets PC'ed on a single piece of parchment. To be honest, I have never tried dumping rifle bullets in the basket to bake, so I don't know if it would make a difference with them or not. I just can't bring myself to try. My OCD kicking in.
 

Thumbcocker

Active Member
Got a email that PSA had a gun come into stock this AM. Checked the website and sure enough it was there. Put it in my cart. Called my ffl to let him know I was ordering a gun and was shipping it to him to do the paperwork.

Go back to the website and said gun was now out of stock. SHOOT! So I look and they have the longer barrel version of the gun I wanted. So what the heck. A 6" 357 mag Taurus Tracker. Yah I know, Taurus. Over the last couple of weeks I have looked at a bunch of revolvers at different dealers. It seems that the quality has improved from my last go around with them.

This is the gun I ordered. https://palmettostatearmory.com/tau...-5-357-mag-38-spl-p-revolver-ss-2-627069.html

So, we will see. I don't have luck with hardly any gun makers anymore. I actually expect there to be something wrong with every gun I buy. So we will see about the lifetime warranty they claim if something is wrong.

And my MP mold and die set showed up today for this gun. Going to cast a bunch tonight to have them ready. I have the pot warming up right now to get the pure lead out of it and set aside for now.
Just try and look suprised when you open it on Christmas morning.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Every time I get just about ready to jump into PC a post like this comes along. And the whole jumbled in a basket thing. Don't they get little imperfections on them from touching and lying against the wire mesh?

I understand Tomme was coating pistol bullets and those are especially what I don't understand because BLL works so well, is so simple, and not time consuming.

I was especially interested in coating plain base bullets for the 9.3x57 until I got talked out of it and the mould.
I am BY FAR not the most knowledgeable PC-user, but my first batch came out perfectly, and each batch thereafter. I cheated and I hit @CWLONGSHOT up via PM and asked which powder to use for the absolute, most assured chance of screwing up the least and he recommended Eastwood, Medium Ford Blue, so I bought a pound for $18.

Just like so many things, I tried a couple things to get the powder to stick, and the Cool-Whip bowl didn't cut it, but I found the perfect container in the Dollar Store (3 for $2) and it worked perfectly. Maybe all in my head, but I don't have to shake-rattle-n-roll, I just swirl with the bottom on a short-pile carpet square for about 30 seconds, roll the thing lid-over-bottom twice, GENTLY, swirl 30 seconds again and one lid-over-bottom trick again and I have heavily-coated bullets. @Ian steered me right on the pointy "tongs" and knocking the excess off.

I DO stand them up. Shame on me, or otherwise, but my means, methods and philosophy mirror @Rick H 's post above, almost exactly, in every detail he described, to include the OCD part.

Like @Tomme boy and @Rick H , the parchment works great, and I get at least ten cycles, unless I screw the paper up through mishandling. Buy the good (name-brand) stuff. I've gotten the Missuz off the hook a time or two in the past when she's run out of parchment or wax paper (for BLL and 45/45/10) and she INSISTS on the good stuff. Points for Jeff. The baked powder brushes off the parchment pretty cleanly.

I've not tried the basket, but do not doubt its efficacy. I do not weight-sort bullets, in deference to progressive visual culling, up to and including seating. I'm not a competitive shooter either, but am happy with my targets, as far as loads and hardware go. I'm still working on ME after a long "dry-spell" of not shooting as much as I once did, so minor technical matters won't show up until I'm shooting well again, which is a lot of work and I may never get back to where I was, but I'm OK with that.

Anyway, the point of the overly-long post for someone with so little experience is that YOU ( @L Ross ), are fully capable of producing good results with little perceived effort, knowing what yo know and doing things the way you do. The nature of our habits, developed while shooting cast bullets over the years will fill in most of the blanks you think are lurking.

Now, even if I WERE to use baskets, the PC process would still not overshadow my tumble-lube process in terms of time and energy efficiency, nor (so far) in terms of what I see on the target. I shoot a 148 grain WC in the 357s, which I do not size, tumble twice in 45/45/10 and load into unsized 357 cases for use in my revolvers and carbine. Hard to say with the revolvers, but in the carbine, I can see NO difference at all on the target, and the targets are very good with the carbine, so no, PC isn't going to save me time, but I'm more about making sure I don't bake on lube inside a suppressor (which may or may not be happening anyway), and it IS an "easy way out" to make two little pigs of cheap revolvers not lead.

I probably should sell the two revolvers and buy ONE, really good revolver with really good dimensions and alignment, but I like them. Jury's out on that one still, but I sure do like squishing a hundred (or two) warmed 357 WCs in a ziplock bag and dumping them onto waxed paper, and having a quart of usable, accurate bullets ready to do that easily.

You're a smart enough guy that everything you already know will kick in and answer any question or concern as it arises. Maybe not so much for those who have no already spent years developing their habits already.