Powder and primers today

fiver

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i wouldn't doubt it.
they are also not good cold weather primers.

i don't understand why though, about 5 years back they were making primers to winchester specifications.
i kind of have a feeling winchester was using them in their cheaper promo line and kind of pulled the wool over their eyes a bit.

anyway they are supposedly made in the same place cheddite makes their primers, but actual side by side testing doesn't bear that out.
the NS primers run lower pressures, but in some cases they actually have higher velocities and better es's.
they indicate a lower brisance level for sure, and everyone scratches their head over the speed thing when it shows up.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
That is why I bought 5000 Gold medal hulls and many bags of matching wads several years back . Also bought 2 cases of primers at the same time . Bought the same in 2.5" 16 ga and another 5000 of 28 ga + a lifetime supply of wads . When my old man money starts I am gonna find me a good used shot maker then I will be set for life . I also have another 20,000 cheddite primers for the 16's and 28's .
The 16 almost demands reloading these days. With a new retriever pup coming, maybe I'll have to get into it.
 

Bret4207

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yeah... they still have to properly flag the truck, and the driver still has to have the license to drive the truck too.
but we don't have to have any of that to drive home 100-K primers and 48lbs. of powder in the trunk.
Because you aren't a CMV that falls under the FMCSR. By the time it gets down to the consumer it's either a Consumer Commodity or Small Quantity. There are exceptions to the exceptions of course, but just be happy and get it home!
 

Bret4207

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When they first started this bogus "hazmat" thing, it was $2. Then it went to $3,...

I called US DOT and inquired about it. The guy was very nice and instructed me to look at the label and read a number to him. It started with "UN."

He told me that this was basically a bone we threw to the UN, by agreeing to get on board with some small transportation (read small arms) regulations which they want to be a world standard. This was in the early nineties when I called.

He could have been blowing smoke up my butt or not, but he also stated that the stuff being called "hazardous" is not hazardous according to USDOT as long as it is packaged and shipped they way it was already being shipped. Not their call, according to him.

Not tryingto start a conspiracy theory here.
Pretty much all HazMat has a UN number now. International standards don'tchaknow.
 

fiver

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yep they went through and UN'd all the haz-mat stuff a few years back.
they changed some of the numbers, and added a bunch of stupid pictures i don't understand to the process.

it wouldn't bother me a bit if i had to have a CDL and a Haz-Mat to get my stuff home.
i have both.
 

Tomme boy

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Had the same cdl and hazmat when I worked at a paint store. I was hauling all kinds of flammables every time I made a delivery. When these body shops made a monthly order, I hauled 3 half ton pickup loads to 5 different shops every month. They never got charged anything hazmat. And we had 4-5 semi loads delivered to us every month. We never got charged either. Its just another way to make money is all it is.
 

Ian

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yep they went through and UN'd all the haz-mat stuff a few years back.
they changed some of the numbers, and added a bunch of stupid pictures i don't understand to the process.

it wouldn't bother me a bit if i had to have a CDL and a Haz-Mat to get my stuff home.
i have both.

I'd pay you thirty bucks to drop by my place with a 53' dry van full of powder and primers.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
yep they went through and UN'd all the haz-mat stuff a few years back.
they changed some of the numbers, and added a bunch of stupid pictures i don't understand to the process.

it wouldn't bother me a bit if i had to have a CDL and a Haz-Mat to get my stuff home.
i have both.
In NYS, of course, you have to take an actual classroom class now just to get your CDL!!! I've heard the cost runs from $2-7K- to drive a dump truck!!! Madness, sheer madness!!!
 

Tomme boy

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Not here. Go to DMV and set up a drive test and a written and its yours. You have to have a physical for A or B can't remember which.
 

fiver

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class A has a medical card attached to it.

i had to rent a rig, insure it for one day, and take a drug test before i could use their rig to take my test in.

i didn't even know which truck i was gonna use.
i didn't even know how to shift the damn thing so just sat there for a minute looking at everything when he wanted to go for a ride.
he finally mentioned 40 sum hours of driving the truck,,, i was like umm no i ain't been in the thing 40 seconds yet, i'm trying to find all the gauges and look over the shift pattern.
uhhh yeah take a minute if you need it.
 

Tomme boy

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One of my best friends has a towing service. He has a Rotator big rig he makes the most $ with. $1500 to just start it. Then has 3 flatbeds of different sizes. I worked part time for him years ago and made all kinds of cash. I covered from 1AM to 8 AM every other night. Police calls were where you made extra $. Farthest tow was from Moline, Illinois to Cape Girardeau, Missouri. AAA towing covered the first 100 miles. Then it was $2/mile after that. This was on a Sunday afternoon and they had to be at work Monday morning. They had no choice but have it towed. That was with a 1 ton Chevy 4x4 wrecker with a wheel lift.

He has asked my almost every time I see him to go get my cdl. But I can't pass the physical. I am insulin dependent and that is a no no.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Not here. Go to DMV and set up a drive test and a written and its yours. You have to have a physical for A or B can't remember which.
Yeah, well, that's how it was here too until this past year when they decided that actually being able to drive wasn't as important as getting a card that said you paid someone to take a class!!! It's like Overweight permits- your truck is safe only to 80,000 lbs...UNLESS you pay the State a fee which magically turns the truck into something that's safe at 107,000 lbs!!!
 

Mitty38

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One of my best friends has a towing service. He has a Rotator big rig he makes the most $ with. $1500 to just start it. Then has 3 flatbeds of different sizes. I worked part time for him years ago and made all kinds of cash. I covered from 1AM to 8 AM every other night. Police calls were where you made extra $. Farthest tow was from Moline, Illinois to Cape Girardeau, Missouri. AAA towing covered the first 100 miles. Then it was $2/mile after that. This was on a Sunday afternoon and they had to be at work Monday morning. They had no choice but have it towed. That was with a 1 ton Chevy 4x4 wrecker with a wheel lift.

He has asked my almost every time I see him to go get my cdl. But I can't pass the physical. I am insulin dependent and that is a no no.
Ye the insulin dependent put me out too. Ten years ago I had a CDL, was driving a car hauler, big swing boom rescue, recovery truck, and out of state towing and hauling.
I was good was the guy they called for the worst of the worst. Semi's in ponds, cars on house roofs.
Plus I did transport for dealer aquisition. You know take the 60k vehicle or piece of equipment, 700 miles dead head, on a roll back. Then hop Allstate,Budget rent a car and AAA calls back.
Zig Zagging home. Loved it at the time and I was good at recovery,

Being insulin independent required me to take a physical and a blood test With another physical every year, then get an approval, form. Then back to the doc I got the first pysical from . If my A1c was too high then you have to wait another 6 months and take it again. Anyhow, messed up on the procedure some how, when I got sick. Lost my CDL, and would have had to retest. So at that point I decided I was beating a dead horse.

I hear it is a bit easier now, but I am past that.