powder coating paint
- Thread starter D Crockett
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Winelover
North Central Arkansas
Coating, baking and double sizing...............not seeing the advantage over traditional methods. Except maybe to cover up flaws in the casting technique.
Understand, you make a a undersized bullet larger but then there is the possibility of nose issue with rifle rounds.
No Thanks, I'll invest in proper sized custom molds. Keeping Tom happy and staying in business.
Understand, you make a a undersized bullet larger but then there is the possibility of nose issue with rifle rounds.
No Thanks, I'll invest in proper sized custom molds. Keeping Tom happy and staying in business.
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KeithB
Resident Half Fast Machinist
I love some of the colors you guys use. I've made door signs and license plates on the milling machine and filled the grooves with fluorescent paint powder that I got from a place called luremaking.com. It comes in several colors and will glow in the dark for hours. Anybody try that?
Ian
Notorious member
CW, you asked the question, I was offering my explanation. Sometimes we work with the moulds we have and it is necessary to size down incrementally (yes, right after casting or baking while they're soft like you said!) to preserve concentricity and certain features of the bullet. Sure, you can whang a coated bullet through a hole .010" smaller, but does what you end up with shoot as well as it could? Maybe it doesn't matter, maybe it does; your gun will tell you.
There's no right or wrong way to prepare powder-coated bullets if you are satisfied with the results you're getting, and I think that is THE most important point here. I know you can't see my signature line on your phone, so I'll repeat it here: "It ain't HOW you do it, it's THE WAY you do it".
There's no right or wrong way to prepare powder-coated bullets if you are satisfied with the results you're getting, and I think that is THE most important point here. I know you can't see my signature line on your phone, so I'll repeat it here: "It ain't HOW you do it, it's THE WAY you do it".
Glow pin the dark bullets? Never considered that?
Winelover
North Central Arkansas
Ian, got there without PC. Heat treated my recovered bullet alloy. No tin added. Carnuba Red for lube. Star sized. Four times fired Lake City 03 military brass. I don't do anything special to the bulk purchased brass, other than sorting by year and using a RCBS X sizing die, after the initial trim. This project was my first foray into rifle reloading.................I skipped the non semi automatic cast bullet class. It was an adventure. Want to just see if it was possible with cast. Hell, to this day, I never slugged any barrel or ever cleaned one, to remove jacketed fouling out of any, before switching to cast. I'm stubborn, like that.
The Armalite is hindered by the style of bullet it will feed with 100% reliability. Has to be close to a spitzer design.
The Armalite is hindered by the style of bullet it will feed with 100% reliability. Has to be close to a spitzer design.
Ian
Notorious member
1813 fps, John. I assume 20" barrel. My loads would give you 2500 fps, they do nearly 2600 from my 22" M1A (chronographed). So you worked out a pretty good load and I'm in no way minimizing your accomplishment with lubed cast bullets in an auto-loading rifle, only pointing out the advantage that carefully prepared powder coated bullets can offer...if you are so inclined.
fiver
Well-Known Member
i got a bunch of glow in the dark Jig heads.
i use them with big white tubes over on the east side of Bear Lake when the lake trout spawn is on.
some of the tubes glow in the dark too.
i thought about buying some of that paint and a small paint bed applicator to make some bullets with.
then recalled i don't do a whole lot of night time shooting, and that they need some UV light to charge up.
i use them with big white tubes over on the east side of Bear Lake when the lake trout spawn is on.
some of the tubes glow in the dark too.
i thought about buying some of that paint and a small paint bed applicator to make some bullets with.
then recalled i don't do a whole lot of night time shooting, and that they need some UV light to charge up.
Gents... total n00b when it comes to powder coating... thinking about getting into it.
Question for the masses: shake and bake vs spray and bake.... it would appear to me that a spray and bake would allow thinner coats (trade off being multiple applications for coverage? ) therefore avoid a major build-up and multiple sizing... why do most folks do shake and bake -- Just because of simplicity? Is there something I'm missing with spray and bake?
Thanks!!
Andy
Question for the masses: shake and bake vs spray and bake.... it would appear to me that a spray and bake would allow thinner coats (trade off being multiple applications for coverage? ) therefore avoid a major build-up and multiple sizing... why do most folks do shake and bake -- Just because of simplicity? Is there something I'm missing with spray and bake?
Thanks!!
Andy
fiver
Well-Known Member
shaking costs like a buck for the yummy cream inside the container you put on your pie.
you control the thickness by putting more or less powder in the container.
win-win.
spraying works once you get all the ions lined out.
i got no clue what a spray gun costs, but i bet it's more than a dollar, and if you want full coverage you have to work out a hanging or standing system,,, plus a way to control the over spray.
you control the thickness by putting more or less powder in the container.
win-win.
spraying works once you get all the ions lined out.
i got no clue what a spray gun costs, but i bet it's more than a dollar, and if you want full coverage you have to work out a hanging or standing system,,, plus a way to control the over spray.
CWLONGSHOT
Well-Known Member
Ya need to make your self a spray booth. Its a MUST. BUT simply done with a cardboard box a cheap furnace filter and a cheap box fan. A couple squeeze clamps hold it down. Then Tear down fold up and store.
CW
D Crockett
Member
I am new at this powder coating and if this is a dumb question ??well I come up with them from time to time so here the question "what is the parchment paper for ???" DCrockett
Wasalmonslayer
Well-Known Member
To keep the bullets from gluing them selfs to the baking tray.
I use silicone mats way better and last forever I cut them to fit my tray.
Here is a link - https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Bak...d=1640012639&sprefix=silicone,aps,224&sr=8-27
I use silicone mats way better and last forever I cut them to fit my tray.
Here is a link - https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Bak...d=1640012639&sprefix=silicone,aps,224&sr=8-27
CWLONGSHOT
Well-Known Member
Yup. Thats it. Its a "no stick" layer. NO STUPID QUESTIONS if ya dont know ya dont know. No one all knowing, has been here in over two thousand years and his Birthday is approaching!!
Bullets will stick to foil the tray and most items ya dont want them to. Even each other before the harden up with cooling.
Parchment is just the cheapest. It can last a couple bakings if your real stingy. Dont waste the $$ or time on no stick foil. Its only OK but much costlier.
There is a couple other non stick baking sheets that I like. Copper some such is one I found at dollar store. These last dozens plus bakings!!
Also silicone mats as Wasalmonslayer mentions. Also mini silicone icecube trays for long skinny bullets that wont stand up.
CW
Bullets will stick to foil the tray and most items ya dont want them to. Even each other before the harden up with cooling.
Parchment is just the cheapest. It can last a couple bakings if your real stingy. Dont waste the $$ or time on no stick foil. Its only OK but much costlier.
There is a couple other non stick baking sheets that I like. Copper some such is one I found at dollar store. These last dozens plus bakings!!
Also silicone mats as Wasalmonslayer mentions. Also mini silicone icecube trays for long skinny bullets that wont stand up.
CW
I've only run four or five cycles to date, including the small test batch, but I have had a piece of parchment paper in there for the duration with no ill effect. Bullets don't stick in the least - at least for what little I've done so far.
I got these really thin silicone mats pretty cheap but haven't tried them yet - haven't gotten my full value out of that piece of parchment yet.
I do not know how well (or not) they work yet. They came folded and have creases that I may have to "bake" out - if they come out at all. I'm using a pizza oven with a 13" x 13" tray that slides in and out, and had cut a section of a flat aluminum baking sheet to fit the grill years ago.
The ones @Wasalmonslayer posted are high quality stuff. My wife has one for her HUGE baking sheet but I think she hid it, because I haven't seen it in a long time. Why would she hide stuff like that anyway??
I got these really thin silicone mats pretty cheap but haven't tried them yet - haven't gotten my full value out of that piece of parchment yet.
I do not know how well (or not) they work yet. They came folded and have creases that I may have to "bake" out - if they come out at all. I'm using a pizza oven with a 13" x 13" tray that slides in and out, and had cut a section of a flat aluminum baking sheet to fit the grill years ago.
The ones @Wasalmonslayer posted are high quality stuff. My wife has one for her HUGE baking sheet but I think she hid it, because I haven't seen it in a long time. Why would she hide stuff like that anyway??