prepping brass molds for casting

burbank.jung

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How do you prep your brass and steel molds for casting. I started with Lee alluminum molds and recently started using MP brass molds. I tried leading the molds heat up with a hot plate but lost my patience and just stuck the edge into my molten lead for a few minutes like a Lee mold. Is this correct?
 

Brad

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Brass moulds get a good cleaning, a light smoking, then I just cast. Same as I do with any mould except I only smoke brass and then only until it develops a good patina.
 
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Spindrift

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First, I clean them, using acetone.

If it's a HP mould, I check the pins for burrs. If necessary, I polish the pins. And make sure the pins move freely, under gravity (the trick is to not tighten the guide rods completely).

Then, I take the mould through a couple of heat cycles in my toaster oven. Then, I cast. Sometimes, I smoke the cavities lightly (if sticky). I keep a graphite pencil handy, if the pins are sticky it helps with a little graphite.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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I clean every new mold in hot soapy water detergent and a ol tooth brush. While doing this run fingers over all looking for anything sharp or offensive.

Then heat cycle it a couple
Times.

Then mount it to handles and set it on the hot plate for good 30+ minutes. Then cast. I never smoke the cavities never saw a need. I have graphited the pins occasionally but frankly proper heat and its not needed.

When done it gets a coat of mineral oil and put away.

CW
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
I'm the exception to the above .........
I have a brand new when I opened the box brass 462-420 HB/PB 2 cavity MP mould my first MP and only brass mould .
I very carefully followed all of the instructions from the MP website and all of the offerings from well know long time casters .

I washed it with at least the care of the NOE aluminum moulds, Dawn blue original with an old toothbrush, very hot water .
I assembled the base pins , one plain , one hollow base , installed them , and whispered 2 stroke oil over the slid rods on the outside of the mould . I then preformed the 3 times heat and cool rituals and blessings.
I didn't get to cast it the 1st time I heated it to cast but made a special trip the next day to do so ........ I must have uttered the blessing in Greek instead of Latin or possibly some Elven curse .
I poured 12# of junk and put it all back in the pot . Half of the mould was tooooo hot or half was wrinkled . Bases and noses looked like I was short on sprue or there was a qt of 30 at in the mould .
I took it back to the sink washed it again with Dawn and a new from service spent toothbrush. Then I repeated the heat cycles and blessing . I was very careful not to mix the Latin and Greek .

I cast it again. Now this is the second casting and 9th heating second wash out with no lubricant of any sort anywhere near the bench . With everything up to temp I added a quick specticals , belt button ,wallet , and watch ....... I then poured 10# of junk with the same defects except for the noses looking good now . Back in the pot .

I returned to the sink and washed in very hot water from a fresh bottle of Dawn and rinsed . I then gave it the kidney pie prep treatment and boiled the piss out of it . Seriously 20 min turned it over and boiled it for another 20 minutes. I let it dry of its own accord . Gave it a good Naval cussing and heat cycled it 2 more rounds . I lived at 4,000 ft in the Great Basin what's rust desert so boiling is only about 196° without salt , sugar , or Glycol , none of which would help here so weren't added.

I poured another 5# of junk and about 10 not completely horrible bullets . Pre heated and the whole bit of course.

I considered Holy water , but instead just glared at it while I waited for.the pot to come back up to temp . Instead I grabbed a handy can of carburetor cleaner and hosed it down with a spritz of the last of a can of brake clean , heated it up again and tried it again, and threw 5# of junk back in the pot . The iron 457193 dropped things of beauty as did the slightly fussy 287-154 NOE . So not an alloy problem.
Seriously I've never been sooooo close to hurling a possessed , contrary , uncooperative, sorry pos tool into a lake from a cliff overhang in my life ! I just left it laying there with an intense loathing glare .

5 more times I tried because "MP is the best and brass is the finest mould materiel ever invented" ....(I hope that last part came out in some childlike whiny sarcastic voice) .
What is this this witchcraft!?!? The 5th session, actually like 16-18th heat cycle , 6-7 washes , and now 9th casting session I got like 4# out of 10 in good bullets . It ran along delivering better ratios of good to junk until the move in 18' . Late in the Spring of 19' I got to cast it again . At long last it really was a great mould .

I don't know about brass being a devine gift to man as a mould material but it is nice for repeatable bullets . The mould now throws 2 bullet at 379.8-380.3 or 415.1-415.3 after visual culls at a delightful .460" from the 50/50 pistol pot .

If I ever buy a new brass mould again I think I'll just leave the blocks lay in a damp draft for about 3 months before I do anything but wash it out .
 

358156 hp

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Brass moulds don't seem to like being shiny. That caused me grief with the first few that I got.

And I'll smoke anything, just a light caramel coating should do it.
 
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Petrol & Powder

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When I receive the mold I keep it in a dark wooden box made of chestnut. At midnight on the first full moon, I take the mold to a cemetery and place it on the top of the headstone of a Freemason. I then kill a chicken and while holding the body of the bird walk three times counterclockwise around the headstone while chanting……..

Naw, I just degrease the mold with acetone, dry it and start casting as fast as possible. The mold gets hot, smokes a bit (you never really get all the oil off) and then it settles down and makes good bullets. After that, I lightly oil the steel spure plate and put it away.

Sometimes we overthink this stuff!
 
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Rick

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I agree with that ^^^^^^ I get a new or new to me mold and I give it a good cleaning in denatured alcohol, pre-heat and start casting. I never ever smoke any mold, seems a silly thing to do, spend time getting it clean and then promptly gunk it up. No thanks, not for me.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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Just as a test. The MP Brass mold that arrived yesterday was cast straight away. All I did was spray it out using brake clean and cast. (Well I did warm it 30 min on a hot plate to about 300/325°.

Ya know... It had about 2-4 cull drops before the bullets dropped perfect.

I am not gonna change my methods. Cleaning and heat cycling. But this time with this mold, It seems working fine with out that.

CW
 

Ian

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I do nothing but twirl a q-tip soaked with denatured alcohol in the cavities, mop with a dry one, and start casting. Virgin, brass moulds get the caramel smoke haze first go to prevent tinning.

Had an aluminum NOE long ago give me fits somewhere close to RB's tale, but more recent have been fine once the binding pins are addressed.
 

Brad

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I don’t even clean Al moulds anymore. Get them hot and start pouring. Doesn’t take long to get good bullets.