Quite interesting . . . Quite pricey

Rick

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Rick

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It's not for me either. For anyone heavy involved in competition though this would be just the ticket. Hunting and plinking ammo not so much. Perfectly consistent neck tension on the bullet and case wall grip on the chamber walls is critical to utmost accuracy and this would be the most consistent method of annealing I've ever seen.

Anyway I posted the link just as something interesting not to try and sell it.
 

Mowgli Terry

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I suspect there is some Kool-Aid drinking going on with those machines. One set up I saw on the net had not one but two of those devices.
 

fiver

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the guys over at bench rest central think highly of measuring the seating pressure and sorting accordingly.

they shoot .1's and .2's for group and .4 is maybe gonna get a trophy if the wind is blowing, in aggregate.
[10 groups]
 

CWLONGSHOT

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I suspect there is some Kool-Aid drinking going on with those machines. One set up I saw on the net had not one but two of those devices.
100%. Many of the new reloaders seem to have deep pockets or feel its required to have the best/better tools than anyone you know.

Just one or three videos of/from ultimate Reloader and you will see. Dont know if he is "new" reloader, but he dosent appear very old & only seen him past couple years.

CW
 

trebor44

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Started out with the propane torch and socket then moved onto the Annealeze. Used it (the Annealeze) enough to know it take about two lifetime for a ROI on one of these since I just shoot for fun when I get the opportunity.
 

Walks

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Reloading has gotten to be like the Fishing Industry.
New tools/lures every year.
It amazes Me that We could hit a gallon can at 50ft using ammo loaded with a 310 Tong tool or Lee Loader back in the 1960's.
 

fiver

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yeah,,
i read a bass fishing forum all the time and i gotta chuckle at all the gear some of those guys have.
i look at it and think, man i could have like 50 of those 10 dollar poles i use for the price of one they just showed a picture of.
even the back pack shore guys would laugh out loud at my single tray box with only 2 types of lures in it, and the color selection is 2 in one type and only 1 color in the other.

i have the wrong hooks, my line is too light, i totally use the wrong 20 dollar reels, i have no specialty type electronic gear, the pole weight is all wrong, heck my net has holes in it... LOL
AFAIK the fish don't know the difference.
 

Walks

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25-30yrs ago I worked for a chain of Hunting and fishing stores. Some of My Guys were Competitive Bass Fisherman. Or wanted to be. And at least twice a month in Spring and Summer there were new colors/"Flavors" of plastic worms. And a few months later I would find those worms in the Blowout bin for Cost.
My Dad told Me many loong years ago; Fishing lures don't catch fish, they catch Fishermen.
 

fiver

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i learned long ago fish tend to eat the stuff in their lake or stream.
if there's worms, grass hoppers, minnows, leeches or cray fish they tend to eat them.
if you look, you'll see what they eat and you just make your lure look like that.
 

oscarflytyer

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Fishing Lures - Funny! Live in the Huntsville area (for second time). Have bass fished the TN R/Guntersville/Wheeler area. Learned a long time ago, there are ~3-5 worm colors and ~2-3 hard bait colors that are go to. The rest is 'wow, there is one I haven't tried' colors!
 

L Ross

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Took a little road trip yesterday and while out I swung past one of the community first ice fishin' holes. A sheltered bay off the Mississippi that is shallow and freezes early. There were six vehicles parked in the lot and guys were out on the ice not far off the ramp. The water there is about 3 feet deep and indeed you can catch some keeper panfish, usually bluegills there.

On the ice I saw one guy with a 360 Live Scope device. That is a steerable sonar device with a panable transducer that can show fish in a 360 degree circle perhaps 60 or more feet out. I was watching this guy playing with his $1,800 or more dollar toy as another guy was dragging his sled across the lot headed for the ice. I had my side window down and was laughing as I said to the much younger bearded dude, "Look, that guy has a Live Scan out there in 2 1/2' of water." He turned to me and said, "I've got mine too." I looked in his sled and indeed there was the bulky case and long arm and stand. I shook my head and said, "I think I'm going back to a diddle pole." He said, "I've got my flasher too."

Technology is a wonderful thing and I imagine that these young men have recently bought this latest high tech gadget and are dying to try it out. The fact that this spot makes that application seem almost silly doesn't matter. I will say this though. Looking at the bearded guy I'll give you a run down on what his gear had cost him. Otter Monster sled, $140.00, Striker ice suit with floatation, $500.00, flasher, $500.00, 360 degree Pan Optics Live Scan, $2,000.00 with the ice stand, auger, $100.00, Cordless Milwaukee M-18 Fuel drill to drive the auger bare tool only, $170.00, three rods, $150 minimum, three reels, another $150.00 minimum, pocket tackle box with 200 lures many of them tungsten, $450.00. Add in a skimmer, ice line, creepers for his boots, his expensive boots, a spud bar I saw in the sled for testing ice safety, ice picks for self extraction from falling through the thin ice, a bunch of ice plastic lures and a Copenhagen can full of waxies or spikes and you've got another $500 easy.

As I saw him walking across the lot and knowing a lot about ice fishing I'd estimate his investment in gear alone was between 4 and 5 thousand dollars. The beautiful new looking Chevy 4x4 he got out of was most likely not cheap either. For many of us our hobbies are a huge part of our lives. And frankly, what the hell else is money good for?