Read about something like these .

RBHarter

West Central AR
I saw these elsewhere a couple of days ago I remember reading something about them . Seems like it would be a significant hassle to keep the mould and the copper hot .
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Refresh my memory . Some cousin of Proteks ?
 

Ian

Notorious member
I know I've seen those discussed, but never before now saw any actual evidence that they existed.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
They have 2 rings and a gas check .
It seems like you had to put the L shaped "washers" in the hot mould and pour through them . Might even have been a nose pour with the gas check cast in as well .

This example was 30 cal .
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
I read about Wilks or wilkinson copper disks placed in the lube grooves when casting. Was waiting to read a promised follow up article which never happened.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
wilks is the name I remember too.
there was also a wire wrapped bullet way back in the day, Savage had something to do with those AIRC.
anyhow.
I believe the wilks used copper washers and not drilled gas checks.
 

Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
It seemed he was punching a hole in copper disks, could have been gas checks, don't recall, but it looked like it would be a pain to get good fill out in the cavity.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Wire wrapped bullets were patented by Moxie, but loaded by Newton for his cartridges later in the teens.
 

Missionary

Well-Known Member
I remember reading about those wire wrapped bullets. The banded slugs could be usable. But I think paper patch makes much more sense.
And now we PC ! I wonder what will be written about this practice 50 years down the pike.
 

popper

Well-Known Member
Interesting how much extra work people will do to replace simple grease. Not surprising their effort is wasted.
 

Tom

Well-Known Member
Andrew Lambley (spelling?) Wrote an article back in the 90s about making driving bands from 3/8" tube for his 375 h&h. I think he's on this forum. Pretty sure he's andrew375 on cb.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
I modified a rcbs 30-180 SP mold to take 5/16th's inch tubing from where the drive bands would be all the way down to the base of the bullet.
I cut the tubing off at .474 of an inch and slide the heated pieces of tube into the mold and pour through it.
when I cut the tubing I cut it so the ends are pushed in to create a lock to the alloy.
pushed to top end [24-2450 fps] 30-30 speeds in the 7.65 argie and 7.7 Jap rifles they are awesome deer smackerdowners.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Think of the film Paint Your Wagon........"The best things in life are DIRTY!"
Try it in an indoor range sometime. It's pretty cool, and adds to the experience when shooting outdoors, but is a bad thing indoors.
 

Axman

Active Member
I think iirc that there was an article in Harrison’s book about copper tubing bullets years ago.