red dot in 300 BO.

hporter

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Thank you for sharing the data.

I love shooting sub-sonics in my 300 BO Ruger bolt gun. I have a little Red Dot left, I might have to try it too.

I mostly use Bullseye in my loads. I cast some XCB plain based bullets this week out of my new mold. They weighed 169 grains lubed with 2500+ and sized to .310. I am looking forward to trying them out next.

This past week I shot some supersonic jacketed loads that I had made up back in 2012 when I still had my AR upper in 300 BO. I realized it was the first time I had shot a jacketed bullet from that gun. And then I made the mistake of looking at the copper fouling in the barrel with my bore scope when I got home. But some scrubbing with bore cleaner and a brush took care of that.
 

popper

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Shot the 145gr PB PCd with 6. 6.5 and 7 gr red dot. Chrony number for 6.5 was 1380 & 1392 fps. 7gr didn't register. 170gr PB BLL (bigger holes scattered) did fine with 6.5gr but not chronyd. Change in POI but expected that. None had any hard extraction. Even with the magnetospeed attached, groups were pretty good @ 50 yds.
Shot the 110 vmax and got 2280 & 2369 fps. Kinda expected from barrel shooting cast previously. Also shot about 50 40sw @ 7 yrds - I need to start lifting weights again, very unstable standing. Kinda like the jitters. Poor eyesight doesn't help either.
Just remembered! When I changed the rail on the cva, I zero'd on 145gr H110 loads. Darn.
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hporter

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Thanks for the report.

Like I mentioned in the post above, I shot my 300 Blackout Ruger American Ranch this past October. I shot the 311299 and a 169 grain Elco (sp?) both NOE molds with 3.5 grains of Bullseye. My scope was still sighted in for them, because they grouped nicely into the center of the target bullseye at 50 yards. Chronographed around 900 fps.

Then I shot some of my 110gr Vmax loads with 19.5gr of Lil'Gun that I loaded almost a decade ago for my 300 BO upper. I didn't chronograph those, but they impacted dead center of the target and about 6-8 inches above the putt-putt Bullseye loads at 50 yards. Then I shot a bunch of the 147gr pull downs that I loaded supersonic back then. They grouped well too. Just need to shoot the supersonic stuff up to reclaim the brass for my subsonic loadings.

Sorry about the jitters. That little Ruger is so light and easy to hold. There was a big difference shooting it offhand than with my 308 Garand. I shot the Garand with cast bullets for the first time that day. What a hoot.

I need to stop by my local shop and see if I can pickup some more Red Dot. I am almost out. It shoots so well out of my 45 Colts, I need to buy some more.
 

popper

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Interesting, for a non-gas gun, red dot works pretty well and uses less powder than unique or 2400 and several other for same fps.
Target from yesterday, front bag and me on back. Most outliers are the 170, larger meplat.
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hporter

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I stopped by the LGS on the way home tonight. No Red Dot, but he did have 5 1lb bottles of Bullseye so I told him to ring one up without asking the price. My eyes probably popped out of their sockets and I might have muttered something Blasphemous when he told me it was $49.35 with tax! Wow!!!

I didn't really need it, but then I thought to myself that I didn't have to pay hazmat, and one day if I were to run out would it kill me to pay $50 for one more bottle.... So I just paid the nice man and went on home with my bottle of Bullseye.

Those groups look good to me. The LGS had every kind of jacketed bullet in stock that I could think of. I was tempted to buy some, but I love puttering with my cast bullets, so I left them on the shelf. I was impressed with the in-stock powders. He must have had 30 different kinds of powder. He had gotten in some CCI large pistol magnum primers. Said it was the first he had seen in two years. Those were $6.29 with tax for 100 (all he would sell at a time), but I passed on those too.

I will drop by again to look for Red Dot. You have put the bug in my ear to get some more now.
 

fiver

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he's getting 63 bucks a brick and midway/brownell's is still a hundred.
someone is skyjacking their prices.
 

hporter

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I made the mistake of looking online if any Red Dot was to be had. Nope - and no Bullseye either. But the list prices seems to be around $35 a pound before taxes, shipping and hazmat.

So I guess a pound of powder in hand, is better than a few trips to get a hamburger for lunch....
 
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nanuk

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Up here, some greedy folks are asking $175/100 for BR primers

And several recipes of powder are at the $1000/8# keg

Crazy
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
It IS crazy.

This is one of the cool things about the 300 BLK and loading the 38/357, as well as others similarly. We who cast and get our giggles doing things like this can make a pound of powder go a long, long way.

@Outpost75 has written a good bit along these lines, which is very useful. I have never seen anything he might have done with the 300 BLK, but it would be a boon, as it is such a neat cartridge to fool around with using cast. Mine was a H&R and was a bunch of fun, but I had it rebored when Ohio went to straightwall cartridges in rifles.
 

CWLONGSHOT

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I have a RA in AAC too but I have not tried Red Dot. Herco and Trail Boss both work well and I dont see why RD wouldn't.
My buddy has a 'tender in Whisper and shoots allot of subs with my cast mostly using TB. (Silenced) Ill try some RD.

CW
 

popper

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I was looking for a Unique replacement, ran across this data(a while back) and ran across a single pound can at LGS, price wasn't great but Unique is unobtanium. Gee, a few yr ago in a pawn shop saw a single # R. D., 12$ - shoulda bought it!
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm
Kinda interpolated 32/20 and 30/30 data. Testing was with Oregon trail bullets.
Don't think it will cycle in the AR pistol, maybe I'll try.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I was looking for a Unique replacement,...

I think I posted this recently,... somewhere, so forgive me if I'm repeating myself, but there's this:


BR-5, second one from the top. I have no experience with this powder whatsoever - just going by what he posted on it.

I used mostly Unique and W23/HP-38 in the single-shot 300 BLK. I was shooting 98 grain SWCs, up through LEE 170 grain RNs and a couple versions of RDO's 165 grain RFN. I never chronographed it, because I was mostly fooling around with it as a surrogate 32-20, but it was very accurate at 50 yards with all loads and virtually no effort.