Reloading book by Richard Lee?

[dannyd]

I am using jacketed data for my 350L and it goes right along with the jacketed data. I hit pressure right when the jacketed does.

All the data in his books come from other companies he didn't test it. There is a reference to this in the book. But after he passed the 6 cavity molds have gotten way better.

 

[dannyd]

I wanted to like this comment, but then I realized I believe Ric is talking about number-4 more so than number-3.
I skipped 4 for my own reasons [after some interaction with it's author] knowing full well it'd be full of linotype and 5744.

5744 the powder for almost all occasions.

 

[462]

I expected Lyman's 4th to be better than their 3rd.
I wouldn't be surprised if the author found a way to work up a .25 Auto load using Linotype and 5744.

I bought the 4th and wouldn't miss it if it grew legs and walked away.

 

[RicinYakima]

Well, the "Duke" wrote in Handloader last year he "developed" a load once and never changes it. Ever. Never tests anything else. Ever. What did you expect?

 

[Walks]

I liked the old #2 the best. Probably because just about everything had light loads with Bullseye and Unique.
And the bullet mold charts in the back are Fantastic.
All 4 of the Cast Bullet Handbooks and the Pistol & Revolver Handbook are great reference material.

 

[Ian]

I liked Rick K.'s post because it was sarcasm. I knew what to expecte from Lyman cast #4, which is why I didn't buy it either. Thumbed through a copy at the local hardware store once to be sure I wasn't missing anything and put it right back on the shelf. #3 is pretty good and when combined with the 45th and 49th loading manuals is a pretty good start on a cast bullet load database.

 

[462]

Lyman's 45th is a classic, and many of its loads remain listed in newer editions, despite the advent of modern pressure testing techniques and newer powders. And lawyers?

My deceased reloading mentor, gun-buying enabler, and best friend gave me his well-battered(!!) copy of Lyman's 45th, as my first manual. If it wasn't eventually going to my son, my deathbed request might be that it be incinerated along with me.

 

[JWFilips]

There is No Way he did all that pressure testing for all those calibers! He wanted to write the book....... He had to interpolate most of his data using a computer program...no doubt ( if he did that much)

 

[Walks]

Or else he used old data and just reentered it.

 

[Rockydoc]

My favorite loading manuals are Nosler. There is nothing in them about lead bullets since they don't make any. I just like the format. They tell you the load they found the most accuracy with and in case you don't have that powder they tell you the most accurate load they found with several popular and appropriate powders.

If someone would publish a comprehensive book like that for cast lead bullets it would be fantastic.

 

[Charles Graff]

I have a copy, but I didn't buy the book. I am not a fan of Lee stuff and a true believer on the other board, sent me a copy of the book to convince me that Lee was the true guru of reloading. Because it was a gift, I didn't have the heart to pitch it in the trash.

 

[JonB]

I've bought all the books that have been mentioned in this thread (and more). I realize some have their flaws, but I'm OK with that. One of these days, I'm gonna find some of Ken Water's books.

Back to the OP.
I'm no expert, but I've had the Lead vs Jacketed discussion with others more than once...many times actually.
Most times these discussion start out with a qualifier statement something like this, "with all things being equal".
and the problem is, that ALWAYS, things are not equal, and they can never be equal.

 

[Ian]

I'm no expert, but I've had the Lead vs Jacketed discussion with others more than once...many times actually.
Most times these discussion start out with a qualifier statement something like this, "with all things being equal".
and the problem is, that ALWAYS, things are not equal, and they can never be equal.

Indeed.

 

[Ian]

Or else he used old data and just reentered it.

I forget now if it was Accurate or Alliant powder data which is conspicuously absent from Lee's manuals; whichever company it was refused to allow the data to be copied into his book.

 

[dannyd]

I have both books. He's likes himself and I'm the same way too, but his equipment has gotten better after he passed.

 

[fiver]

well,, there was a time there when reloading data was pretty much thrust on anyone walking past a gun counter, and if it wasn't all you had to do was ask for one of the books under the counter.

you can still get Alliant's data book just by asking them to mail you a copy.

 

[dannyd]

well,, there was a time there when reloading data was pretty much thrust on anyone walking past a gun counter, and if it wasn't all you had to do was ask for one of the books under the counter.

you can still get Alliant's data book just by asking them to mail you a copy.

Must powder company's have a good web site or manuals you can download. I just like to read the books even Lee's always get something out of them.

 

[fiver]

if I ain't got it in hand,, I ain't got it.
I have enough various manuals to easily fill a 9-10' long shelf.

 

[CZ93X62]

I agree that Lee moulds improved markedly once the Old Man was gone. I'll wager that NOE, Accurate Molds, and Mountain Molds had something to do with that uptick in quality as well.

 

[Walks]

Molds improved ?

Until they cut away the bottom outside of the blocks, now hard to maintain a steady temp.