Ruger GP 100 44 SPC

CZ93X62

CZ93X62

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I don't think I would relish "Skeeter's Load" in a Charter Arms Bulldog.

Brad, THANK YOU for the pressure estimates on both loads.
 
Brad

Brad

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No problem. QL is pretty quick to use for stuff like this.

I find that the 44 special is a lot like the 45 Colt in that a fat, flat nosed bullet of decent weight running 750-850 FPS hits with some significant authority. Going a lot faster means more noise, recoil, and overall obnoxious behavior by the firearm.
 
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Jeff H

NW Ohio
Winelover said:
:headscratch: I would like to see Ruger chamber the LCR in 44 Special. They could go with a unfluted cylinder to increase mass/strength, without adding too much weight. I'd even settle for one in the LCRx.
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I have a LCRX 3" 38, and it is LIGHT, but seems large/bulky for a 5-shot 38.

A LCRX in 44 Special sounds intriguing, but how big would it end up being?

I figure Ruger has had about enough of this nonsense and will avoid the 'Special like the plague.
 
Winelover

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
An LCR or LCRx in 44 Special could be roughly the same size. Using, the frame the 357 version is based on. I have a molded holsters (leather and Krydex) for J-frames that fit both the CA bulldog and the 357 LCR. Like I said earlier, a unfluted cylinder might be appropriate but that would only affect the weight.

Actual cylinder diameters:

Bulldog (44) = 1.465"

LCR (357) = 1.288"

J- frame (38) = 1.311"

Curiously, the S&W 38 Special's cylinder is little larger than the LCR in 357 Magnum.
 
oscarflytyer

oscarflytyer

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CZ93X62 said:
Anything is possible--but I am also skeptical. If someone has Quickload handy, give Skeeter's Load a look-see......Lyman #429421, 44 Special brass, 7.5 grains of Unique, CCI 300 primer. These clocked 950-975 FPS in a Model 624 x 6.5" I had some years ago. I would be interested in predicted pressure levels.
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You just described my latest toy and load exactly! Love it so far. May replace the NMBH Flattop to actually deer "hunt" with (vs just carrying as a sidearm - the BH {4 5/8" bbl} is PERFECT for that!). I DID come with rubber pachys and I DEF need to replace with wood!

Brad said:
No data for the Lyman 429421 but with an NOE 255 swc QL shows 17.5 K PSI with 7.5 gr of Unique. Dropping to 6.5 gr gives 13.4 K PSI.
I doubt the 7.5 gr load is going to hurt a modern 44 special revolver.
I avoid the Skeeter load because I don’t want that level of recoil and don’t need the velocity for killing cans and paper.
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Again - double thanx Brad! 1 for posting the pressures on this one (perfect for the NMBH and 624) and also for another positive reason to splurge for QL sw!
 
CWLONGSHOT

CWLONGSHOT

Well-Known Member
Im a bit on the fence here. Bad my eye on a GP100 in 10mm for some time. Im a fan of the 10 & have a few in semis. (Where it belongs)

Like most things I revolve around my ability to hunt with it. CT requires a revolver and I I have said I like 10mm. Easy right!?! Well I also have
The 41 Mag in a far more appropriate hunting revolver.
So I find myself looking at the 44 spl. I had a bulldog for a few years. I always felt it was "rough". Then one day I learned I was to be the range officer for the up coming S&W day on the main range at the gun store I was working at. S&W had just brought out "custom shop" 1911's and the nice lil 44 spl 3" Stainless L frame. I shot it and was informed I was able to buy any new gun in the S&W line. I bought that 44spl that day. I loved it. I dont remember selling let alone my reasons. But its long gone.
I never have been a 43 Mag guy. (Yea I owned a few anyhow) So I dont really want, nor am I looking for that. But the Spl has class and its a proper revolver caliber.

I ran across a Blk hawk flattop in spl. Now Im questioning my tjjnking. I have a few to choose from if I wanna hunt a revolver... But I want ta use 10mm.... But dont really wanna auto caliber in a revolver. So the Spl looks good. But just t get a GP100??? This Flat top while a new model its a very nice gun. But I have a nice 41 Mag Blk Hawk..... So do I want a 10mm or a 44 or just another DA Revolver... I dont "need" any of them...

Argh!!!
CW
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
So buy the 10mm then start grousing around for a 30-40 cylinder .
When you find a couple of 40 cylinders take one and ream it to 1.285 and cut that x39 off about the shoulder . For a 10mm mag .
.......... Nope never wishbooked that before ......
 
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Mowgli Terry

Active Member
My current project handgun is a really nice old 1917 S&W with King reflector front sight and drift adjustable rear sight. The only devil to deal with is are the large cylinder throats. My favorite is a Smith&Wesson 624 from the 1980's. I do OK with the larger handguns. My old Model 29 does exceptionally well in the 44 Special mode. Skeeter level loads are top end for my 44 Special loads. Got a custom 44 die from lathesmith for the Star.
 
Winelover

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Rather have large cylinder throat's than small. No need for the cylinder to act as a sizing die. Since I own a Marlin, .433 bullets are the norm. Both my RH and Bulldog have large throats. :cool: Only, have to keep one size on hand, keeping it simple. The only downside is custom moulds.:headscratch:Well, not really.
 
Winelover

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Sure you can but it's gonna cost. Most likely, to ship the cylinder back and forth, then there's the cost of the work. I'd rather just invest in a custom mould. Never found large cylinders to be a disadvantage to accuracy................then again, I'm not a silly-wet shooter, either.
 
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