Saeco #315 bullet

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FrankCVA42

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have an old Saeco mould for this bullet. Nose section is too large causing me to have to force the bolt so it will close. Was thinking about a tapered nose sizer for this bullet but info regarding nose sizing and dies to do it are lacking. Has anyone done this to size the nose of the bullet so as to reduce the amount of force to close the bolt. I'd be very interested in what you have to say and where to get a nose sizing die. Frank
 
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dale2242

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I have been loading Saeco #281, a 145 gr .284 bullet in my grand daughter 7MM-08.
The nose of this bullet is large enough that it engraved the nose when seated out.
The bolt took some effort to close and was hard to extract a loaded round.
I was some distance from home when testing them so I decided to shoot them.
They shot a small ragged hole at 50 yds.
I didn`t want her to deal with it like this or mess with sizing the nose of the bullets so I seated them deep enough that the bullet would just touch the rifling.
I was pleasantly surprised that the rifle shot just as well with the bullets seated deeper.
 
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quicksylver

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How did you determine your present seating depth? Maybe you just need to seat them deeper, I have used them in at least 8 different guns and 3 different cartridges, .30/06, 30/30, .308 and had no problems with them , they shoot lights out, period, you only need to lube the first 2-3 groves then load them so they JUST touch the lands in the rifle you are going to use them in, short neck cartidges are no problem they even shoot in a .300 Savage
 
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Ian

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The ones I make are H-dies that size the whole bullet at once and work best with bullets which have been powder coated. All of the other types on the market (NOE being the principal source currently) size only the nose and leave the body unsupported. In a compound linkage-type luber-sizer, the ram has sufficient slop and side loading to bend the bullet as the nose is sized, so I make my dies two diameters with a 1.5⁰ transition between to fully support the bullet as it is being worked.
 
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S Mac

Sept. 10, 2021 Steve left us. You are missed.
Of course with conventional lube, what I am using, I run through a regular size die to lube after nose sizing. I do place the gas check on while nose sizing, it goes on nice and square. Well made tool, cut to spec.
 
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FrankCVA42

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Have an old 1966 Winchester target rifle I bought a bunch of years ago in 30-06. Barrel has hardly been shot and lands still have sharp edges and no wear in the throat area. Want to get it ready to shoot. Looking for steel picatinny rail and I have an old Nikon 6.5x20 scope not doing anything. Frank
 
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quicksylver

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Buy any one of a thousand on the market and drill your own holes to fit those in receiver if it’s been drilled if the bolt hasn’t been modified it might not clear a scope only Light weight or feather weights had bolts to clear scopes and holes drilled in receiver not sure about early post64 other than to say a lot were equipped with Lyman or Unertal scopes. The last heavy barrel target 70 I saw was push feed and equipped with irons
 
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FrankCVA42

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This Winchester model 70 being made in 1966 is a push feed action and does have all the receiver sight adaptor for Redfield olympic and International rear sights and Redfield big bore front globe front sight. Also has Lyman style scope blocks, but unfortunately the only 20 power scope I have besides the afore mentioned 6.5x20 Nikon is a 20 power Redfield 3200. I have no scope blocks for the Redfield. So would like to setup the old girl for cast bullets. Do have a McCarbo reduced trigger spring but haven't installed it yet. Frank
 
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quicksylver

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GOOD OLD STEVE , he makes wonderful products, so sorry he moved from my back yard to Maine, have to go through a LGS that is in his old home town to get anything , and it takes forever now, used to just e mail him ,he would ship out what you asked for and send him a USPS MONEY order when you got your stuff. TRUSTING.

Does your 70 have the cut outs to accept the stripper clips?About 8 months ago a friend passed away and his wife was selling his guns through a friend, there was a 70 heavy barrel 30-06 he never got to shoot, $1,000.00 for the gun W/O SIGHTS $1.400.00 with, not sure I should have passes on it, but at the time I didn't want the push feed oooh Well
 
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BudHyett

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My first choice is the SAECO #315 for testing. When buying a new .30 caliber rifle, I try the SAECO #315 and the RCBS 30-180-SP bullets in it. After a thorough evaluation including varying size and the powder charges in the 1600 to 1800 FPS range, the rifle had better shoot or it goes down the line (accurizing by selling).

I seat the bullet just to touch (light witness mark) the lands.
 
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FrankCVA42

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Yes, my model 70 does have the stripper clip cutouts. Somewhere in my accumulation of stuff I have a couple stripper clips for this rifle. And thanks for the tip regarding Steve Earle regarding making Redfield bases for the 3200. Slowly getting the stuff together to get the old girl ready to shoot. Regards,Frank
 
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