SIL's rifle
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The trouble with that is when they shoot well. Then you need a 2443 mold, dies, checks, and sizer. I did that after i sold my 98 and bought an Encore. Pretty soon i was back in the 243 business. I have made it a jacketed only bbl but seeing how long I hold out.
fiver
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I have been thinking about it as an alternative to the discount rifles they are selling today.
it's wood and blued even though it is a discount model it's still above anything made today in the 3-400 dollar price range.
I know it'll most likely need to be bedded and stuff but that's no problem.
and it for sure needs a new scope but the rings are already there, and it has open sights which I like to shoot while I still can.
it would also make a good loaner rifle for the kids, nephews, and nieces until I get everything shot up in it.
[I'm sure they'd have no problem burning the barrel out]
it's wood and blued even though it is a discount model it's still above anything made today in the 3-400 dollar price range.
I know it'll most likely need to be bedded and stuff but that's no problem.
and it for sure needs a new scope but the rings are already there, and it has open sights which I like to shoot while I still can.
it would also make a good loaner rifle for the kids, nephews, and nieces until I get everything shot up in it.
[I'm sure they'd have no problem burning the barrel out]
fiver
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went and picked it up today.
I'm scrubbing all the blue stuff out of the barrel as I type.
they threw in a nice old bushnell banner 3x9 vintage scope with a set of period correct rings.
i'll check the barrels float and stuff tomorrow while I load a few rounds to test out in the afternoon.
i got plenty of blue patches and just as many black ones if anybody wants them
you gotta love the foaming bore cleaners though, just squirt it in there and let it do it's thing for a half hour or so then run a couple of patches through the barrel to push everything out.
follow it up with a wet patch or two and the brush a few times then squirt it again and wait some more.
I'm scrubbing all the blue stuff out of the barrel as I type.
they threw in a nice old bushnell banner 3x9 vintage scope with a set of period correct rings.
i'll check the barrels float and stuff tomorrow while I load a few rounds to test out in the afternoon.
i got plenty of blue patches and just as many black ones if anybody wants them
you gotta love the foaming bore cleaners though, just squirt it in there and let it do it's thing for a half hour or so then run a couple of patches through the barrel to push everything out.
follow it up with a wet patch or two and the brush a few times then squirt it again and wait some more.
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freebullet
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I'm having a hard time visualizing your new gun. Wait!!! Let me check my email.... yep they sent it.
Fiver I don't think it's supposed to come apart like that but, congratulations on the new rifle.
Fiver I don't think it's supposed to come apart like that but, congratulations on the new rifle.
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freebullet
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Based on your well described & vast experience I think you'll be able to super glue that back together. Rub a little dirt on it & no one will ever know.
I can't wait to see...er uh...read about the groups.
I can't wait to see...er uh...read about the groups.
fiver
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I would describe the groups from the 243 today but the wife said the rifle needs a new scope.
she was a little scared of the trigger, it has a slight amount of take-up like a 2 stage trigger then it breaks like glass at about 2.5 pounds.
she almost jumped off the bench the first shot she took, but got so she likes it just fine.
we should have the throat shot out of it by the end of summer no problem.
she was a little scared of the trigger, it has a slight amount of take-up like a 2 stage trigger then it breaks like glass at about 2.5 pounds.
she almost jumped off the bench the first shot she took, but got so she likes it just fine.
we should have the throat shot out of it by the end of summer no problem.
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freebullet
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What kind of scope you want?
You might check ebay for nikon omegas. Darn nice scopes for the 1-150 they can be had for. The bdc is handy for holdover and they have around 4" of eye relief. Though to beat for the price.
The trigger sounds great to me. My wife is getting used to some of my light triggers. She was scared of them at first too. It's so much easier for me to be accurate with the light press.
A couple years ago at our gun club a fellow & his son were sighting in his sons first deer rifle. I worked with him a bit, & let his 12yr old boy shoot the lr308 with a 2lb jard trigger. He went home wanting a light trigger. He was able to shoot at 300 yards after struggling to keep his lawyer triggered deer gun on at 50. He shot a couple nice groups after I showed him about follow through by allowing the gun to complete it's recoil motion before resetting the trigger.
Seems that's where most folks get all wonky is by releasing/resetting the trigger before the gun is ready. Doing so with such a light press is a sure way to accidental discharges.
You might check ebay for nikon omegas. Darn nice scopes for the 1-150 they can be had for. The bdc is handy for holdover and they have around 4" of eye relief. Though to beat for the price.
The trigger sounds great to me. My wife is getting used to some of my light triggers. She was scared of them at first too. It's so much easier for me to be accurate with the light press.
A couple years ago at our gun club a fellow & his son were sighting in his sons first deer rifle. I worked with him a bit, & let his 12yr old boy shoot the lr308 with a 2lb jard trigger. He went home wanting a light trigger. He was able to shoot at 300 yards after struggling to keep his lawyer triggered deer gun on at 50. He shot a couple nice groups after I showed him about follow through by allowing the gun to complete it's recoil motion before resetting the trigger.
Seems that's where most folks get all wonky is by releasing/resetting the trigger before the gun is ready. Doing so with such a light press is a sure way to accidental discharges.
fiver
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it'll get a vortex.
I have a 4x12 leupold on the shelf, but I need to measure the eye height to get the rings right.
I want another 4x16x50 vortex but I think the 50mm height may be too much for the stock since it's set up for open sights.
so a plain jane 3x9x40 will probably get the nod for this one.
I have a 4x12 leupold on the shelf, but I need to measure the eye height to get the rings right.
I want another 4x16x50 vortex but I think the 50mm height may be too much for the stock since it's set up for open sights.
so a plain jane 3x9x40 will probably get the nod for this one.
fiver
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a little update.
I have had the rifle out 2-3 times now, the first time went okay with the 3x9 scope that come on the rifle but it was pretty bad as far as mirage and such.
so I went and threw the leupold on it.[which is an upgrade but not a great scope]
I had to remove the front and rear sights to make it work since it is a x50 front objective, but it went right into the weaver rings. [barely]
it shot 100 gr bullets seated out pretty far, hanging out around an inch at 50 and 75 yds. [3 shots per group]
but it really shows how well you can shoot with hornady 58gr V-max's on top of H-414.
I shot 4- 5 shot groups today [at 17-f] all of them under an inch [easily] and 1 near 1/2" at 100 yds. [all of the first 3 shots were under 1/2"]
so I guess a long jump isn't all that bad for this rifle, plus the trigger is well,, nice [it's better than my 25-06 deer rifle by a long shot]
siiigh.
it's barrel is a bit thin for a high count varmint rifle but for rock chucks, coyotes and other targets of opportunity along the highway and up and down the dirt roads around here this might actually turn out to be a dang good truck rifle.
I'm gonna keep my eyes open for more of these little rifles, the price for sure is right and this one can't be the exception to the rule of how they shoot.
I have had the rifle out 2-3 times now, the first time went okay with the 3x9 scope that come on the rifle but it was pretty bad as far as mirage and such.
so I went and threw the leupold on it.[which is an upgrade but not a great scope]
I had to remove the front and rear sights to make it work since it is a x50 front objective, but it went right into the weaver rings. [barely]
it shot 100 gr bullets seated out pretty far, hanging out around an inch at 50 and 75 yds. [3 shots per group]
but it really shows how well you can shoot with hornady 58gr V-max's on top of H-414.
I shot 4- 5 shot groups today [at 17-f] all of them under an inch [easily] and 1 near 1/2" at 100 yds. [all of the first 3 shots were under 1/2"]
so I guess a long jump isn't all that bad for this rifle, plus the trigger is well,, nice [it's better than my 25-06 deer rifle by a long shot]
siiigh.
it's barrel is a bit thin for a high count varmint rifle but for rock chucks, coyotes and other targets of opportunity along the highway and up and down the dirt roads around here this might actually turn out to be a dang good truck rifle.
I'm gonna keep my eyes open for more of these little rifles, the price for sure is right and this one can't be the exception to the rule of how they shoot.
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freebullet
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Having more jump is the only way I've been able to get the worn throat 270 to shoot. Start seating bullets toward the throat & it starts patterning worse.
fiver
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it says western field on the barrel but it sure looks like the old mossburg rifles to me.
it's not the howa action but it does have 2 bigger lugs and a third smaller one placed 120* apart.
and a fairly short bolt throw.
it also has a trapped recoil lug between the barrel and the receiver.
I done a little lapping on the bolt lugs but they didn't take too much to square everything up , and it basically just smoothed things up a little bit.
the trigger on this rifle has me looking at a new timney or a rifle basix for the 25-06 and the 300 xcb rifles.
it's not the howa action but it does have 2 bigger lugs and a third smaller one placed 120* apart.
and a fairly short bolt throw.
it also has a trapped recoil lug between the barrel and the receiver.
I done a little lapping on the bolt lugs but they didn't take too much to square everything up , and it basically just smoothed things up a little bit.
the trigger on this rifle has me looking at a new timney or a rifle basix for the 25-06 and the 300 xcb rifles.
Pistolero
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Is this the action? Mossberg 810?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=539948546#PIC
Buy one in 7mm Mag - Buy it Now for $235 with scope. A little ugly, but better
than what you started with, I think.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=535848246
Bill
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=539948546#PIC
Buy one in 7mm Mag - Buy it Now for $235 with scope. A little ugly, but better
than what you started with, I think.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=535848246
Bill
fiver
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compared to the new plastic rattle about rifles for another 1-2 hundred bucks I think they are a great deal.
I know Bullshop was buying up the Stevens 200 actions and rifles a couple of years back to work with.
when you can pick up a decent rifle for about 250 bucks shoot the heck out of it and then have a new [quality] barrel put on them and finish chambered for about another 300 bucks.
you end up about the same price as a newer Ruger 77, but get two rifles out of the deal in the long run.
I know Bullshop was buying up the Stevens 200 actions and rifles a couple of years back to work with.
when you can pick up a decent rifle for about 250 bucks shoot the heck out of it and then have a new [quality] barrel put on them and finish chambered for about another 300 bucks.
you end up about the same price as a newer Ruger 77, but get two rifles out of the deal in the long run.
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freebullet
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Lol, you don't have to justify it with this crowd.