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freebullet

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Whoa, slow down guys. If we self invite this whole crew Ian will never log on again.
 

fiver

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I hope your getting the lower storm we are getting and not the upper one cutting across Montana.
not that this one is a whole lot better,, it's showing snow from now until next Thursday.
we got 3"s in under 2 hours at one point then it rained for 30 minutes to make sure it stuck to the ground.
I don't think our day or night temps are supposed to vary more than about 6 degrees over the next week either.
it's gonna get deep pretty quick.
 

Pistolero

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Llamas? What caliber? Any Astras? ;) Llamas are fairly weird animals, if
you are speaking of the animals.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I believe "bizzare" is a more accurate term to describe the camilids. We had a llama that was supposed to be for protecting the sheep. My wifes idea, not mine. Freakin' thing hated sheep, and goats, and wasn't any too fond of people. She disappeared in early summer and I wrote her off as dead. Deer season comes around and son tells me she running with the deer out back. Useless animals. Neighbors had one that would attack people but seemed unfazed by coyotes. Useless!
 

Brad

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Freezing drizzle now. It is slicker than snot out there.
Good thing I have a bucket of NaCl for the drive
 

JWFilips

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Well we up here in northeast PA will be getting a do-zzy this weekend if all the models are correct! 12" to 20" by Monday morning with temps on Monday morning at 3 degrees.
Maybe get to use my new snow blower! ( it is are ready!)
 

Brad

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What a total let down.

All I get to shovel is 15’ of hype!

The NaCl, pronounced nackle, does fine on the ice we got. Nothing like .1” or so of ice to make everything slick.
 

Brad

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Once in a while or just once?

We get it at least once a year. Sometimes even a second or third time!

People around here don’t seem to understand that 4 wheel drive doesn’t have anything to do with better braking on ice. It does help you get out of the ditch however. Sigh.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
We got robbed. Snow is pretty, when viewed from indoors. Ice is ugly, no matter how you look at it.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Once every few. It of course must be prefaced by several days below freezing, which rarely happens.
 

Pistolero

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Yes, Brad, I often point out that ALL my cars have four wheel brakes, and front wheel steering......just
like the bozo in the ditch with 4WD. I am driving the 4Runner tonight, but my rule is to leave it in 2WD
all the time, until she tells me "it's time", THEN put it in 4WD. Still have low range and center diff
lock as increasing "seriousness", available. 4WD helps "GO", does zero for "STOP" and "TURN", yet
many cannot grasp that.

We have rain, middle 30s, supposed to switch to light snow about 11 pm. Going out to dinner
with a shooting friend, we'll be out late, so want the option available, although the Accord will
99% be fine, too.

Back in the middle 70s, living in WVa, traveled over the Blue Ridge to central Va to visit my parents
a lot, probably 7 out of 10 weekends, helping my father build a house. Sometimes in winter
coming over those mountains was a thrill in my old Kharmann Ghia. But, at heart, he was a
VW, and would pull snow like no tomorrow until the bellypan got enough under it so the wheels
didn't touch. Hit an area of black ice one night......fortunately, other folks found it first. In the
middle of nowhere on Rt. 60 east of Gauley Bridge, and started seeing flickering lights in the
trees ahead. Then saw that some were red. Started slowing, and recognized I was coming to
what I called Dead Man's Curve, where I had seen many wrecks. Came around the corner to it,
about 200 yds ahead, and eight or ten cars and trucks stopped in and beside road, one upside down
in the ditch, people walking around. I rolled up VERY slowly, like walking speed in 1st gear, but
clutch in. Let out the clutch to keep moving, and it started to spin. Declutched, and caught it,
slow motion. Stopped, and asked a guy standing around if there was room to pick my way thru.
He said, "If you can get traction." New Michelin radials, slowly, slowly, slowly, picked thru
the mess, and then headed out at about 5 mph. Eventually the ice went away, could drive at
40ish. Then climbing a hill about 10 miles away, nobody around, the engine started revving
but I was slowing down. Stopped and started sliding back, steered right two wheels off on
the gravel edge, stopped. Had to keep two wheels on the gravel, drag the emergency brake
a touch to get up that patch of black ice. Once past that, another hour to home. Black ice
is not fun.

Bill
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
What a total let down.

All I get to shovel is 15’ of hype!

The NaCl, pronounced nackle, does fine on the ice we got. Nothing like .1” or so of ice to make everything slick.


I've given up on ice melters, we use what is locally called "Sure Foot", ground limestone/marble from our local quarries. Very sharp little rocks the size of a poppy seed that started off as a traction compound in concrete floored dairy barns, for the cows. Works a lot better than salt IMO and is actually good for the lawn and yard. You might see if there is a similar product in your area, even good sharp masonry sand will work pretty good.
 

Brad

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Advantage I have Bret is warmer days. Ice melt doesn’t work below a certain temp. Sodium stops first, the potassium, and calcium goes the lowest. Even calcium struggles to melt ice as we approach zero.
Pretty rare for use to get a stretch of days where we don’t get above 20 so our roads are generally good,
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
That, and the brine used in Nebraska that melts snow & ice on the roads, and rusts our cars out.
 

Pistolero

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Gee, I have a friend who flies for Southwest, hope it wasn't him flying. The report would
be "braking action is nil" I would bet. You CAN keep an aircraft straight with differential
thrust, and stop it with reverse thrust, but on slick surfaces, even tiny errors are magnified,
and this is something that, while perfect in theory, is not practiced and therefore, even good
pilots are probably not to skilled at when suddenly required to do it. NOW!

"Well, I know this should work....."

They have antilock braking, too. Sometimes you just GOTTA have some more friction on your
side.

Bill
 
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