Source of lead impinged by local laws.

Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Well said Fiver. It's trying to get the new guys from step 1 to step 2 and on down the road without confusing them, that's what I want to do. I don't want others to have to go down the same road I did back in the 70's and 80's where you spent years trying to learn something that we've figured out long ago these days.
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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4060MAY said:
Mitty
Dawson's in Massilon is your friend
also Fin Feather Fur in Canton has good prices
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I'll have to check Dawson's out.
I usually browse Finn feather Fir when I get up that way.
If it is hardware and Lee brand, my local shop "Sphones Armory" will usually match if not beat most other places.And they get a bit of used stuff in there too.
But fin feather usually beats local price for powder by enough to be worth the drive, if I have enough for more than 1 lb.
I am going to Massillon in a week or two I will have to check Dawson's out.
I am going to check out their web sight in the meantime.
Thanks.
 
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Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
If you guys have a place like that in easy driving distance, you are living in a great area. Just finding a place that sells powder or primers here can be a problem.
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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(lake, marsh and prarie state) A lot of dedicated birders- and serious trap shooters in our area. So Red dot Blue dot, clays and shotgun primers are stocked. Fortunately for us loaders, most stores who carry shot gun stuff, have a mixed bag of products related to the none birding reloaded.
A lot of stores that do not have something, will order it. Lots of times they will just tell you, It is at the competitions store. They will even sometimes call the competition for you while you wait. Part of Ohio culture, I guess.
 
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Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
In Northern NY it's deer, ducks and way, way down the scale coyotes and rabbits. The number of bird hunters is infinitesimal. I would wager a bet that most Ruffed Grouse killed here are strafed on the ground with a bunny load. There is a goodly number of trap shooters, it's big in our high schools recently, but it's not like it's anywhere near as big as bowling or the dart league. Any shop stocking more than a minimum of reloading supplies is unusual.
 
RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
I haven't proweled around much here but the farm CO-OP store and one pawn shop seem like they have the market 30 miles south . I've been in a couple places 10-12 mi north but there's nothing so far Ms won't let out to peak in the windows of the 2-3 gun,gear,and pawn shops . I think the 65 mile run in to Ft Smith might be my best bet to get what I want right now . The co-op seemed to be fairly priced 6yr ago an 8# I 4350 was just 183 .

The ranges are a hassle to get to here they are all 5 miles turn left , 5 miles turn left , 5 miles up the forest service road when you come to the fork in the road take it for 5 miles it'll be on your right just past the old grey mare , tumble down barn and the white face cow grazing through the fence . Except Tuesdays then it'll be 3 Angus rubbing on stumps . 2 blacks and a red .
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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So if solder says 395 degree, no lead electrical solder, would it be a good source of tin. Or could it by chance have something else that I need to leave alone in it.
It does not have the label with the ingredients on it.
Just had 2 lbs of it gave to me if I want it. I think that is below the melting point of tin so not sure what might be in it.
Sorry was told wrong. 495 degree.
 
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Bret4207

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Assuming it still has a brand tag on it, get online, find the manufacturer and look at the Material Safety Data Sheet. It will tell you whats in it. Pure tin is supposed to melt at 450F, but if they alloyed it with something else it can raise or lower it. Find the MSDS. I can't imagine anything they'd add that would make a solder unsuitable for bullet casting.
 
fiver

fiver

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usually it has a little antimony in it 5%? and sometimes a titch of copper @0.5% that brings the melt temp up a bit.
but for casting [shrug] it's just tin.
5% of 1% is almost nothing by the time you add a pound to 100 lbs of lead and move the decimal over two more places.
 
Rally

Rally

NC Minnesota
Mitty,
If you have a local gun range, try asking about brass there. Usually you can get it free or near free on site in days close to deer season. Not sure about Ohio, but here in Mn. I buy .30-06 and .30-30 for the going rate of brass scrap. Dealers here have more than they can sell to reloaders. Sure you will have to sort by head stamp, but you can usually get it way cheaper than new brass price.
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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I keep my eyes open for brass always, but we don't hunt with 30-06 in Ohio. Also, most of our ranges are 100 yards or less, As for 30-06 and other large caliber tapered cartridges, once fired is hard to come by. However I manage to pick up enough. 223 and 357, 38 special to have built a nice little stash of those.
I put out some feelers. I have 40 30-06 brass for now.
The local shop owner has a 45-70 and is working on getting me about 50 30_06 For an even up trade for some 45- 70 I picked up and cleaned. The rest will come in time.
 
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RBHarter

RBHarter

West Central AR
I've a bunch of 270 with only 06' and 25-06' and a 7×57 barrel accompanying a 280 reamer . I have an adequate supply of 06' and 25-06' . If a guy really needed some 06' family brass and had some 45-70 a pm might be productive .
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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I already have an agreement for a tit for tat local trade on my 45_70 for 30-06 but If I run across some more or this deal falls through will keep you in mind.
 
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popper

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Unless you have a good ball mic, ID is silly. Measure OD and neck thickness of fired case. IIRC, sulfur cast doesn't shrink. Cerro does just a tad. Any casting will be small (or you couldn't remove it), even pound cast. That mil of oil is in the way too.
 
Mitty38

Mitty38

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358156 hp said:
If 12 bhn would work for you, consider this: https://www.rmrbullets.com/shop/rmr...llet-cores-approximately-12-brinnel-hardness/

I can't afford to scrounge around for this price locally. You might double check, but I think this is the shipped price too. and they have a Christmas sale going on right now too. I just popped for a new MP mould, so I've already spent my Christmas money.
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Definitely a good source and the price is better than what I paid locally, 20 cents less.
Will keep this link save for future use.
However, I just got exclusive permission to dig up an unused range bank, and smelt the lead right there on the spot. Have till mid May till it is opened back up.
So hopefully this bank will yield me a good stash. Just have to get my but out there.
One thing I have learned is it never hurts to ask, got 8 negative responses, and a few people think I am weird now. But then I hit gold, so to speak.
 
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