Spring cleaning, stuff you can have (for the postage!)

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Spring housecleaning. Have the following scrap items that I will be glad to pack up in a flat rate box and ship to you for the postage.

1018 Steel

Item 1: 2 pcs 2" OD x 1-1/4" ID 5-1/2+" long hollow round stock

Item 2: 16 pcs 2" OD x 1-1/4" ID 1+" long hollow round stock

Item 3: 12 pcs 2" OD x 2" long solid round stock

Item 4: 8 pcs 1-1/4" OD x 4" to 6"long solid round stock

6061 Aluminum

Item 5: 12 pcs 3/4" thick x 3" wide x 8-9+" long rectangular stock

Later this month we will generate 36 pcs of 6061 AL rectangular stock 1-1/4" wide by 5/8"+ thick scrap. Plan to give those away also and will post here.

Grab bag: I have lots of other small items of cutoff stock that are too much to list. If you want to take your chances I will send you an assortment of mostly round stock in steel and aluminum.

Just post here about how many of what item(s) you want and follow it up with a PM and your address. I want the count to be public with first come first served but I want your address to be kept private. I will ship it for the price of the flat rate postage. I will knock off any external burrs, these are all saw cut end pieces.
 

Ian

Notorious member
I could really use Item #4 and just a couple of pieces from #5, and as always a grab bag would help immensely with little projects. I will PM you shortly about this and an additional order I need to place for sizing die blanks. Thank you for your generous offers, "one man's trash is another man's treasure" as the saying goes.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
Before I left CA there was a large local metal supplier and they have an entire showroom of bins of cut offs of just about anything everything. The place was a gold mine for people doing small and odd jobs.
 

pokute

Active Member
Before I left CA there was a large local metal supplier and they have an entire showroom of bins of cut offs of just about anything everything. The place was a gold mine for people doing small and odd jobs.

That was back when the fire dept still used horses. They now treat those scraps (Bobco metals, right?) like they ARE gold, and charge accordingly. If only my family's old business, Capitol Salvage, were still in business... Sigh.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Let's let things go a day or two and then I will try to apportion stuff between all the takers. Everybody that wants something will get something.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
That was back when the fire dept still used horses. They now treat those scraps (Bobco metals, right?) like they ARE gold, and charge accordingly. If only my family's old business, Capitol Salvage, were still in business... Sigh.

Nope, Industrial Metal in the valley fairly recently. Haven't been there in 7-8 years now cause I haven't been in CA but their scrap prices weren't bad. A lot of the stuff they sold for scrap weight. Here's a pic of one of the many things I picked up there. One inch ID thin wall seamless made a great lube mold and they cut it to my length free.

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pokute

Active Member
Industrial Metal raised their prices through the roof long ago. I used to get Al sheet there, then the price quadrupled overnight for scrap. No cheap source for metal anywhere in L.A. anymore.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
No cheap source of metal anywhere anymore. I have started quoting all jobs with material separate from labor. I can control my labor costs. I can't control my material costs. All my vendors have started quoting metal prices for 24 hour periods, because all their suppliers are doing the same. You can guess why. I'll stop there.
 

pokute

Active Member
Wow, 24 hour quotes. That sucks. The prices of steel alloying metals has really been climbing the last six months. Mo jumped 50% last month.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
A bit of 5 and a grab bag are good with me.
Thanks Keith, this is a great thing to do for us.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
I gotta get rid of it. I could box it up, take it to the scrap yard, not get squat for it and probably get another flat tire. Or I could box it up and send it to my friends to do creative stuff. I have a stamps.com account so my flat rate costs are a little lower than the PO window rate. I'm not out anything but a little time and they keep the local PO parking lot swept clean.

Small flat rate - $7.05
Med flat rate - $12.85
Lrg flat rate - $ 17.65
 

Rally Hess

Well-Known Member
Keith,
Do you think that 1018 2" OD x 1 1/4 ID is too brittle to be used in a roller fairlead for a 12,000 lb winch? I run double line often so would be 24,000 lb load possible. I can get grade 5 or 8 bolts to go inside in the length I need. I've about given up on Warn roller fairleads.
 

Pistolero

Well-Known Member
Keith,

One of #5, a #4 and a grab bag. Always making odd little stuff, and for me, these can be
pretty handy.

Let me know of the shipping cost.

Not Keith, obviously, but 1018 isn't hardenable, just sort of basic mild steel, not brittle at
all. 1018 means 0.18% carbon, and below about 0.40% steel won't harden with heat treating,
only by cold working. If this is cold rolled, it will be harder, but still not brittle. So, you can
heat treat 1040 steel but not 1018. Steels go up like 1050, 1060, 1070, 1080 and 1090, Each
with more carbon, capable of getting harder with a quench from red hot. the "10" part at
front means no alloying materials, just straight steel. For example 4140 has alloying elements,
and 0.40% carbon, so it will heat treat, and the alloying materials will give it some other
added properties. In this case, chrome and molybdenum, which bring added ductility and
strength, and toughness. 4140 is a common barrel and action steel for firearms for that
reason.

Bill
 
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Tomme boy

Well-Known Member
If you ever have any 1095 or 1075 or w1 or w2 flat stock I mess around making knives. Let me know if you ever have any please.

Tom
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Tomme boy, I don't ever get any scrap like that, we don't use any of those materials. Sorry.
 

Ian

Notorious member
Just post here about how many of what item(s) you want and follow it up with a PM and your address. I want the count to be public with first come first served but I want your address to be kept private. I will ship it for the price of the flat rate postage. I will knock off any external burrs, these are all saw cut end pieces.


I don't know how I missed that part, wasn't sure if you were wanting to dump it off in lot quantities, but some of the lots have a bunch of pieces.

To clarify, I could use a couple from four and a couple from five, and a small grab bag (hand full?) of whatchagot floor sweepin's, along with the die blank order.
 

Rally Hess

Well-Known Member
Thanks Bill. I'm going to have to see what the last two fairleads are made of before making a new one. The cable is wearing them out fairly quickly and they bend in the center. The bending is because the hollow material used has nylon spacers instead of being drilled to fit the support rods running from one end to the other. I've replaced them with grade 8 bolts and nyloc nuts now, but the nylon fillers need to go. The original center rods had e-clips on the ends for retainers and they literally lasted 10 minutes before they came off on a new fairlead, and I was stuck 4 miles in the woods on a two track. Really worked over a section of the cable when the e-clips came off, and I was winching from the drivers seat to steer and power out. I had reception so called the wife to come get me, but still had to walk out to the road.
Anyway, the material Keith had reminded me of building a better fairlead, before this new one goes. The 2" OD and 1 1/4' ID would work for the actual roller and I could get grade 5 or 8 bolts for the main cross supports. Just typing outloud really. LOL It's going to get sloppy here real soon. Snowing now, and calling for an additional 5- 7" tonight. I'll be using the winch soon!
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Ian, I will split up the lots, just easier to list things that way.

Rally, I agree w/Bill 100% on description of material. I'm sure 1018 would work for a while it just wouldn't be optimal for that application. But I'd be glad to put you on the list for a couple.