Springfield 840, 22" 30-30 Win for Cast Bullets?

[waco]

I did just that to an old Rem. 788

 

[waco]

 

[Brad]

That looks very nice. Way better than blonde or dark brown.

 

[waco]

Thanks. Some parts of the stock took the stain better than others, but I was pretty happy with the outcome.

 

[35 shooter]

Brad, too blonde for my taste, too! Dark stain on a birch stock looks cheesy too, though. What do you guys think about sanding it down and giving it a passive green stain, then Tru Oiling it.

Nah, just send it to me. I'll even refund the money you spent on it.

Nice looking rifle...very nice!

 

[yodogsandman]

Fiver, Thanks, checked the band before I left to go shoot. I think if it wasn't so windy, I'd have got those shots into an inch. Maybe next week, I'll get new glasses this week.

Thanks Brad, Glad I didn't wait, it was a good deal.

Waco, I'd have grabbed your 788, if it was on the rack, for sure!

From my understanding, if you first stain the wood with a blonde stain, let dry and then cover it over with another color stain, the otstain color comes out more even. That tip came from a pro painter. I've never tried it.

35 shooter, Thanks! If I see another one like it, I'll be sure to let you know, the LGS will ship em.

 

[35 shooter]

yodog my brother has a savage like that in .222 and it's a nail driver at 100 yds. with cast.

If i found a really nice one like yours in 30/30 i'd probably dive on it.

 

[fiver]

that is in super nice condition, I like it, it just looks like it come right out of the box.


I like that green color too it really stands out, and the under tone makes it look striped without it being forced.

 

[yodogsandman]

That Sun Optics Scope Mount arrived today! Looks like it'll fit great, if I can get all the screws out. Having some problems with three of the four screws. Sprayed them down with Kroil and put it away till tomorrow. The wood will have to be relieved about an 1/8". too to fit right. Being left eye dominant, I really don't shoot irons too well unless they're peeps. Couldn't find any of those, though.

 

[Kevin Stenberg]

I would also buy that in a heart beat. The 340 I have (not nearly as good looking as yours) will be going in for a caliber change to 35/30-30 as soon as funds are available.

 

[Kevin Stenberg]

Sandman you are an enabler of the worst kind. After reading your thread. I went to GB. They had waaaaay to many options for my next project. Your 840 lead me to 340's which lead to 170's. I got sidetract went to S&W shield mags. which lead to contractor making the after market mag's. 1 full hour shot just because of your good find. Insert chain puller here!!!

 

[yodogsandman]

Here it is with the scope installed.

 

[yodogsandman]

First group (12 shots-50 yards) after being scoped and sighted in. Lyman 311291 sized .312" lubed with Lyman Orange Magic and one coat of BLL, 8.0 gr Unique in Hornady cases. Flyers opened the group to about 2". The trigger is improving the more it gets worked.

 

[Maven]

yodog, Do you need both Lyman Orange Magic and a coat of BLL with only 8.0gr. of Unique? LOM is a hard lube designed for higher velocity CB shooting and was originally manufactured by D.G.P. Shay as "Odorous Orange Prime." While it works as advertised, it may not be doing its job and feasibly may contribute to flyers, although a 2" group even with flyers is nothing to be sneezed at either. A double coat of BLL or a single heavy coat???

 

[yodogsandman]

Maven, I cast these up last year and just had the Orange Magic in the lubrisizer. Orange Magic normally shoots well in colder weather for me, usually with a few flyers, though. I added the BLL overcoat thinking that it might control the flyers. I thought I had some cast up with Bens Red to try too, but couldn't find them. Like you, I also suspect the lube isn't helping. I really like using just 3 coats of BLL without anything else. I haven't done a lot of cold weather testing with it yet. I might have to cast some more up to coat with just the BLL. I believe that BLL will shoot the first shots into the group and behave in the cold.

I tried a Lyman 311291 nose into the muzzle last night and found quite a bit of wiggle room, a real lot of wiggle room! Maybe cast those new bulets up with the NOE 311291 mold that I just got.

 

[Maven]

yodog, I had a similar problem with Ly. -291 too. In fact, the only rifle that shot it accurately was a M 28/30 Finn Nagant that I once owned: hope the NOE incarnation of it is a perfect fit. Btw, Ly. 311466 (Loverin) and Saeco #315 (truncated cone, tapered Loverin @ 175gr.) were extremely accurate in my .30-30. Keep an eye out for them if the NOE -291 doesn't float your boat.

 

[fiver]

that 8gr load is also a little suspect I have tested it and found some velocity variations.
those may have been caused by the primer but it lead me to suspect 8grs of unique in the 30-30 is a borderline load that just barely works maybe try another 1/2 to 1 more grain of powder or a little filler.

 

[yodogsandman]

Just checked the NOE 311291 in the muzzle, it runs in about 2/3 of the nose and stops. A nice fit for a bore rider, I think. A quick measurement with the calipers shows the Lyman bullet nose at .987" just ahead of the front band and the NOE is at .302".

 

[Brad]

.005 difference is a bunch. Sure as heck isn't gonna shoot worse.
I assume you meant .297 for the Lyman, not .987?

 

[yodogsandman]

No, I really meant .287" and that's .015" under the NOE's nose. Thanks for catching that! See what I mean by "wiggle room"? It explains why 100 yard groups with that bullet and the H & R 30-30 were so bad at 6"-7".

While this new batch age hardens, I'll try another bullet.