I have really enjoyed Ben's posts of him teaching his grandson to shoot. That seems to be going well. I have started teaching my grandson (age 11) also. Last fall I had shoot some 30-06 with Speer 100 gr. plinkers loaded with 12 gr Unique and he enjoyed that. He went Moose hunting with us last fall and my son shot about a 3 year old bull and he is getting excited about this. I have a Model 70 featherweight in 7/57 with a 3x Leupold that I bought new in the mid 80's that is going to be his first hunting rifle. I bought an inexpensive stock for it that I won't mind cutting off so that it fits him for now, we'll keep that original for later. He is a very level headed kid and I think he will do well. I had him driving my 300 hp jet boat last year on a few trips and he is very steady on the controls. We ride snowmachines a lot together and he is very careful and you don't have to worry about him going "stupid" on you. I bought some 150 sil commercial cast to get going in the little 7. I have been reading and getting a lot of good info from this site and am about to dive into casting. I cast about a 1000 311291's back in about 1970 and about that time marriage, kids and the other stuff came along and I haven't touched it since. I found the box of 311291's the other day and they are all sized, lubed and gas checked but I put a caliper on them and they only measured .308. Going to try them in my '06 and see how they work out. Many thanks for all of the fine information I have been able to get from all of you.