Tell me about the 1873 rifle.
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Ian
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Series took place in the 1880's. Pretty tough for a 1880 rancher to use a model 92.
It never stopped John Wayne's prop department. I think he even used a 92 Winchester in the Alamo.
smokeywolf
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Didn't know that Rick.
Do know that Ian is right about most of the Duke's westerns. Check out the firearms used in "The Undefeated", which is supposed to take place immediately after the war between the states. There were a lot more; "Rio Lobo" comes to mind.
Wayne's disregard for authenticity, relative to the time period was always a disappointment to me.
smokeywolf
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As you and I both know personally, Hollywood played fast and loose with recreating firearms use.
The model '92 that Chuck Conners used in the opening scene was magic, in that he fired 12 rounds (with 13 reports) and the '92 SRC only held 10 rounds of 44-40 in the magazine. Of course it might have held a couple more 5-in-1 blanks.
The model '92 that Chuck Conners used in the opening scene was magic, in that he fired 12 rounds (with 13 reports) and the '92 SRC only held 10 rounds of 44-40 in the magazine. Of course it might have held a couple more 5-in-1 blanks.
Ian
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I never could figure out how he got a dozen rounds of those 45/70 cartridges from his gun belt to cycle and fire through a '92 Winchester pistol, and with without reloading at that. Ah, Hollywood, let me suspend my disbelief...
Any reply is going to be biased (and those other guys are wrong!).
Ballistically, I'm not sure there is a great deal of practical difference for a handloader. The 44 mag has better availability of a greater variety of components--might be a plus, especially brass. I don't recall you being a BP shooter, so those issues with the 45 Colt can maybe be ignored (unless I'm wrong; if you need a review from a BP perspective I actually have a bit more applied experience).
As for the rifles:
I will never buy another Marlin. My last one was purchased new, spent two years being shipped back and forth to the factory a couple times, and never worked. I took a 40% loss when I sold it to the dealer (who was sure "his guy" could fix it--the way I heard later, he spent close to $1,000 trying to fix it before stripping it for parts). The Marlin Jam is a known problem.
Several of the Model 94 Winchesters in 45 Colt I've seen have oversized chambers--drastically reducing brass life.
The Browning 92s seem to work, and work well. Don't know if they made them in 45 Colt.
The Rossi 92 clones in 44 mag and 45 Colt have worked for the folks I know who tried them.
The Italian copies of the 73 seem to do OK with factory equivalent in 45 Colt, don't know if they are made in 44 mag.
waco
Springfield, Oregon
My 1894 Marlin in .44 Mag started to have the “jam” problem many many years after purchasing it. Brad talked me through how to fix the problem. I just replaced the Carrier and filed down the sharp 90 degree edge on the lever. Been just fine ever since. I made a video about it. Not sure this is the same problem you had Jim but some may find it useful.
waco
Springfield, Oregon
This is what my brother bought. I was very impressed with the walnut, trigger, fit and finish. Top notch. What’s better is they now come with a loading gate. Not that big of deal but adds a classic touch.If I was in the market for a 45LC lever, it would be a Henry, all steel Big Boy.
Rockydoc
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Jim, was your new Marlin a “Remlin”? I have read and heard that quality control was practically nonexistent as Remington was failing then died.
Rockydoc
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After your good and helpful responses I think a 44 Remington Magnum would be more practical. And more powerful.
I only have one Marlin, a 1961 336 in 35 Remington. I am very pleased with it. My Marlin feeds better than any of my Winchesters.
I have never fired a Henry, but I have handled them and I thought they were too heavy to suit me.
I only have one Marlin, a 1961 336 in 35 Remington. I am very pleased with it. My Marlin feeds better than any of my Winchesters.
I have never fired a Henry, but I have handled them and I thought they were too heavy to suit me.
fiver
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the 44 isn't more powerful than the 45 colt, unless your stuck buying stuff from the store.
even then you can pop for some buffalo bore and then wish someone made a less powerful round.
anyway, my 44 mag and 45 colt die heads share the same powder dumps, the only difference is the colt uses a heavier bullet.
even then you can pop for some buffalo bore and then wish someone made a less powerful round.
anyway, my 44 mag and 45 colt die heads share the same powder dumps, the only difference is the colt uses a heavier bullet.
The "Dread Marlin Jam" pre-dates the sale to Remington. Mine never actually fed a round from the magazine, but I've heard the fix Waco described is fairly common on rifles that get used a lot.
My rifle was pre-Remington but made the first trip back to the factory in late 2006--when the sale was announced I was a little concerned. It came back in early 2007. It jammed first round (and every subsequent round) with the ammo they claimed they'd tested it with. I sent it back the next day, and I heard nothing and got no response to inquiries til August 2008, when it was returned. And it still didn't work.
