The "Car" gun

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
The car gun and why it’s a bad idea.

There is a practice that I refuse to engage in but one that is rather common throughout America. It is the practice of routinely storing a firearm in a vehicle. This is sometimes referred to as the “car gun” or “truck gun”. I am not addressing the times that a firearm must be stored in a vehicle out of necessity. I understand that there are times and places that dictate that a firearm be temporarily stored in a vehicle. I am speaking to the practice of always storing a firearm in a vehicle.

I ask that others examine their actions and make informed decisions. There are three significant points that should be examined: The loss of the contents of the vehicle, the loss of the entire vehicle and the unavailability of a firearm not within your immediate grasp.

The Potential Loss of the contents of a vehicle:

For many years I have lived by the axiom, “never leave anything in a car that you are not willing to lose”.

Cars and trucks are not mobile gun safes. In fact, they are not secure at all. Thousands upon thousands of larcenies from automobiles occur daily. If you must routinely leave a firearm in a vehicle, please consider using a strong lockbox secured to that vehicle and concealed from common observation.


The Potential loss of the entire vehicle:

Car theft is not something that only occurs in big cities, vehicles are stolen wherever vehicles are found. When a car or truck is stolen, everything in it goes with it. A gun stored in a plastic console or glovebox is hardly secure. A gun “hidden” under the seat is not safe from discovery. Over 700,000 vehicles are stolen in the U.S. every year. Living in a rural or suburban area is no guarantee against auto theft.

Accessibility of the firearm for self-defense:

If you carry a firearm for self-defense, it will be of NO USE to you if the gun is in your car and you are not in your car. The gun will not come to you when you need it; it must be with you to be of any value.


Just some points to ponder. We all make decisions based on the world around us, let us make informed decisions.
 
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Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Exactly, why I'd never do it. Plus, I relocated from Detroit. Had multiple vehicles stolen and or broken it to.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
My insurance buys me another truck and I get another rifle out of the safe in the house. Anything in the truck if backup only.
 
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Rick

Moderator
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I escaped from L.A. and never left anything in any vehicle for any reason. Probably has something to do with 50,000 cars stolen in L.A. County alone every year. Has always amazed and shocked me the number of people that leave not only guns in vehicles but wallets, check books, jewelry.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Either you don't lockup the house, or you sleep in the car.
Where he is nobody is likely to break into the house.
My brother lived in northern Wisconsin in a smaller town and nobody locked their house or car.

Rural people do live a bit different from city folks.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Where he is nobody is likely to break into the house.
My brother lived in northern Wisconsin in a smaller town and nobody locked their house or car.

Rural people do live a bit different from city folks.
Yep.
It wasn't till I was in high school that we started locking the house.
After that, I started sleeping in the car.

Back on topic.
I kept a chopped Canadian acceptance marked S&W 2nd Model Hand Ejector in the truck's tool box for quite a while.
Eventually sold the gun to a member on that other site.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
My insurance buys me another truck and I get another rifle out of the safe in the house. Anything in the truck if backup only.
Not only does the criminal steal your truck but you've armed them as well.

And while your insurance company pays for the stolen vehicle, we all pay higher premiums to cover that loss.
 
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Glaciers

Alaska Land of the Midnight Sun
Living in a rural location is no guarantee against theft.

Rural heroin addicts and meth heads steal just as much as city punks.

P&P has it right.
We live in the third section on a dead end dirt road.. Used to leave everything unlocked back in the 70's and 80's. Keys in the ignition, doors didn't even have locks. I will point out that I was the only person in the last 2 sections. Used to get some looky-loo's show up in my drive with cars that could not get out. No cell phones or land lines back then, so no calls for tow trucks. So I always would tow them out just to get rid of them. Didn't want to feed or house them. Couldn't read or maybe couldn't understand what the "No Trespassing" ment.
Now we have 16 families living in my section alone. Getting crowded.

Now everything is locked with security systems in place. Fortunately our drive is 600 feet in from the only road, an not a straight shot. The other factor seems to be people have learned to read and pay attention. Could be that I added a targe below the no trespassing signs.

The problems that some folks have had, are jerks coming in the back way, on snow machines, on section line trails in the winter. I don't have any trails other than my drive, and it will stay that way. Make it hard for them and they move on to easier pickings.
 

popper

Well-Known Member
texas screwy auto/gun laws got changed years ago because of all the guns stolen out of autos/trucks. LE made a lot of $ from fines. Corrected now. At one point, illegal to take a gun from the house to car.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
P&P, I don't know where you live, but here every 12 years old gang banger has a Hi-Point and a SIG or S&W by they time they are 17. Just had a fatal shootout in a rathole part of town last week. Argument in a carryout parking lot. Nobody charged because the surveillance cameras could not tell which of the four bangers started shooting first. So I don't go and park my 16 year old Dodge pickup in those places.
 

Walks

Well-Known Member
I live in a Small Independent City in los angeles County.
The biggest single crime is Auto Theft Burglary.
Catalytic converter. A electric reciprocating saw; $30bucks from Harbor Freight and I'm out $1100bucks.
A 2 batteries, those are locked in with steel cables now.
So much for car alarms and security cameras. They wear masks, even before the blasted chinese flu.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
No honest man will tolerate a thief but complaining about theft doesn't help.

A better course of action is to protect your property. When it comes to vehicles the best way to prevent theft from the vehicle is to simply not leave items IN the vehicle. They can't steal what isn't there.

If they steal the entire vehicle the practice of not leaving valuables in the vehicle STILL works. If it's not in there when they steal the car, they will not get it with the car.

We can all sit around and talk about how it used to be. How we never locked our doors. How you could leave a gun in a car and not worry about it. But none of that nostalgic thinking will help after someone steals your property.
 
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CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
Good rule of thumb--Never leave anything inside a vehicle that you aren't willing to lose. In Riverside during September and October, THE SAME HAIRBALL stole 8 vehicles over a 7-week time span........and got cite-released each time. No Post-Release Enhancement, no bail needed--just booked at the jail and given a ticket. There is almost ZERO disincentive for criminality, so stop storing guns and other valuables in vehicles!