The "Car" gun

RBHarter

West Central AR
Well I'm probably the odd man out but as a rule if someone steals my one of vehicles , the newest is almost old enough to drink and way past 1/4 million miles , they deserve everything they get . Although I would miss that one handyman jack and the ratchet straps .

Never leave anything of any value , if it's avoidable , in a car/truck .
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
Good rule of thumb--Never leave anything inside a vehicle that you aren't willing to lose. In Riverside during September and October, THE SAME HAIRBALL stole 8 vehicles over a 7-week time span........and got cite-released each time. No Post-Release Enhancement, no bail needed--just booked at the jail and given a ticket. There is almost ZERO disincentive for criminality, so stop storing guns and other valuables in vehicles!
I think the average American has no clue how little punishment is handed out to the thieves that are caught. It is nearly impossible to be held in jail pre-trial on a theft charge and receiving any type of incarceration after a conviction is rare.
I totally agree that there is almost ZERO disincentive for criminality.
Don't count on the threat of punishment to deter thieves - There is no punishment.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Two different times, I've had a window brokeout in my car/truck which was parked in the street overnight, just so the vandal could steal something. Both times, all they got was a handful of change and some cassette tapes. After the second time, I decided to NOT lock my secondary vehicle (my main vehicle is garaged), so at least if it happens again, I won't have to replace the glass.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
that's the strategy I employed down in salt lake.
windows ain't cheap and adding their cost to the rest of the stuff inside sucks more.
it was bad enough I didn't even install car radios in the dashboard anymore, I put them in the glove box and run them off a remote.

our biggest crime here is speeding, it covers like 98% of the courts docket.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Car prowls of a lock vehicle is almost nothing here. Mostly it is B&E in daylight hours while the occupants are at work. I live on a seven house cul-de-sac with everyone retired. A strange car drives in and it has seven sets of eyes looking at it. Also the neighbor keeps his pump shotgun propped up in the picture window at an angle. We have had had one B&E in the street in 46 years I have lived here.
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I recall something about good fences making for good neighbors?
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
I'm an odd duck I guess, because I don't consider it a truck unless there is at least one rifle, one shotgun, and one pistol in it. I park in places people rarely go and rarely lock it. I wouldn't live in a place I had to worry about it, but when I travel through I'm armed. I refuse to be worried about the general population and the likelihood someone is going to break into my old truck and steal a firearm I can replace, I don't keep my better stuff in my trucks, just my working firearms, and I most often have one of them close. I'm more concerned with government agencies, and their overreach.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
Ian, I love your sign on your gate, but in this state, that would get you a "presumption" of "intent" to do great bodily harm. If you ever shot anyone in this state, you would go to prison. Ric
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
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I'm with Ian's mindset. House has full monitored security, complete with 8 cameras. Everyone, within earshot knows I shoot regularly.

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Bella is a pretty good watch dog. If anyone but Rick, comes down the drive, she's barking her head off.

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Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
Ian, I love your sign on your gate, but in this state, that would get you a "presumption" of "intent" to do great bodily harm. If you ever shot anyone in this state, you would go to prison. Ric

In a criminal case - An over zealous prosecutor might use the presence of that sign as part of a theory that you had a pre-existing desire to use deadly force. I'm not sure if it would be enough to prove premeditation to commit murder, but why provide ammunition to your foe?

HOWEVER, In a Civil Suit for wrongful death - the presence of that sign would absolutely be damaging to a defense. In fact, it would likely prove insurmountable.

Those types of glib displays on signs and bumper stickers are NEVER helpful to the defense in a civil suit.
 

Rick

Moderator
Staff member
I agree with Ian. Location means everything. In some places you will be standing in front of a judge for defending yourself regardless of circumstances. Just the act of self defense is enough to put you in jail.
 

Cadillac Jeff

Well-Known Member
I have this "GANG"

of red squirls that I been tryin to eradicate & I use deadly force on them---old 22 shot keeps them at bay!!
It worked on the last "Gang" ----they called themselfs the chipmunks---evr heard of them

:)

Jeff
 

Rally

NC Minnesota
When I was in Texas, you only had to prove intent when somebody was on your property and either threatening bodily harm or doing damage to your property.
In Mn. that same person needs to be in your home.
 

Petrol & Powder

Well-Known Member
Ian, I do not wish to be confrontational or disrespectful.

In a civil suit there will likely be a deposition in which the plaintiff will ask the defendant about that sign. The answer to that question will be totally irrelevant - the damage will be done by the question alone.

Unless you just want to be exposed to that question........why not just avoid it in the first place?
 
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RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
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All squirrels, included chipmunks, are protected in the Soviet of Washington! Shoot one and the fine is the same as poaching deer.