The Lowly Round Ball
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Kevin Stenberg
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JW you mentioned about only using enough velocity to leave a ball in the intended target (deer). What was the velocity that they were shooting at?
JWFilips
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Kevin,
They didn't know anything about velocities back then! They just used trial and error and word of mouth!
RBHarter
West Central AR
I know this is a stupid question but I'm going to ask anyway as I haven't found the specific passages yet . Does a SWC count as a conical for the hunt ?Since you showed me yours............I'll show you mine.
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.457 RB for ROA (pure lead)
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However, we're required to hunt with conicals in pistols, in Arkansas.
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LEE 220 grain conical for ROA (pure lead)
The only LEE mold I ever owned.
Seems like a 257 gr 429421 @ .448 in a Dragoon over 40 gr of FFFg would be spirited in the neighborhood of low Ruger 45 Colts or start 44 mag .
Edward R Southgate
Component Hoarder Extraordiniare
Conical is anything other than a round ball .45 caliber of 200 grain or more. Not sure what revolver has the required 9" barrel .
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Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Ballistic pendulum...
Winelover
North Central Arkansas
That 9" barrel length rule is asinine and treat it as such. If you count the cylinder, the ROA makes the cut.Conical is anything other than a round ball .45 caliber of 200 grain or more. Not sure what revolver has the required 9" barrel .
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Missionary
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Steel balls..... I started with bb's. Dragon flies were another fun one. Yellow jackets hoovering around their entrance hole also.
But 30 years ago knowing a standard Winchester slug would not penetrate the neck armor of large crocodilians on Amazon tributaries the round ball came to mind. Cast of WW at .685 they can be dropped in a standard Winchester field load. Double + the penetration of a slug.
Then I came across a coffee can of .685 industrial motor ball bearings. At 1500 fps one inch soft plate steel was easily punched. Near 2 feet of dried oak. I would take that ball against any beast....
But 30 years ago knowing a standard Winchester slug would not penetrate the neck armor of large crocodilians on Amazon tributaries the round ball came to mind. Cast of WW at .685 they can be dropped in a standard Winchester field load. Double + the penetration of a slug.
Then I came across a coffee can of .685 industrial motor ball bearings. At 1500 fps one inch soft plate steel was easily punched. Near 2 feet of dried oak. I would take that ball against any beast....
Winelover
North Central Arkansas
Yes it is............
Trying to enforce it on private land is a whole different ball of wax.
Rockydoc
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Was that fired from a 12 ga shotgun?
Rockydoc
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My only deer harvested with a LRB was a doe shot at a distance of 50-60 yds with a 50 cal T/C (I think a Renegade, I am not sure of the model) over 90grains ffG Goex. The ball entered behind the left shoulder and exited the right side of the neck(see, another neck shot). The deer was running at the time so the distance she covered after the hit was from the kinetic energy of her velocity. She dropped right there and skidded a bit.
My gun was scoped with a 4 power scope. The load/patch/lube/powder combination was developed from an instruction package acquired from Dutch Shultz. It was capable of putting 5 shots at 50 yards that you could hide behind a half dollar.
I have given the gun and the "Load" to my grandson. (You know, one of those grandsons that have shown no interest in loading ammo either down the muzzle or into brass cases.)
My gun was scoped with a 4 power scope. The load/patch/lube/powder combination was developed from an instruction package acquired from Dutch Shultz. It was capable of putting 5 shots at 50 yards that you could hide behind a half dollar.
I have given the gun and the "Load" to my grandson. (You know, one of those grandsons that have shown no interest in loading ammo either down the muzzle or into brass cases.)
Edward R Southgate
Component Hoarder Extraordiniare
Elmer Keith said the old gunfighters that used the cap and ball revolvers much preferred the round ball to the conical for killing power as they cut a full caliber hole and the conical would not.
