This wheel weight thing.
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Gary
SE Kansas
twerking it;
Now I want to see the video of that maneuver Mitty!!
Mitty38
Well-Known Member
Meant to say tweeking. Cannot be responsible for auto correct.
But surprised twerking got such a suprise reaction.
I mean really, none of you guys have danced around in a sexually provocative manner while alloying or casting? Considering some of the music you fellows listen to while casting. Nobody???
But surprised twerking got such a suprise reaction.
I mean really, none of you guys have danced around in a sexually provocative manner while alloying or casting? Considering some of the music you fellows listen to while casting. Nobody???
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RBHarter
West Central AR
Having met Buckshot and visited his cave there are 2 things I can say to that . One is that any similarity to dance done in his cave would more resemble the electric slide , maybe the stroll . Second that image could very likely result in yet another mental image that would keep a lesser man from sleep , I'm just curious about how the subconscious is going work that out .
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I didn't rad through all the other posts but you have to remember that WW are made to the lowest bid spec. Yes, the older lead ones were better and more uniform because they were probably made here in the US of A with batches in the hundreds of tons. What you get now probably comes from China or other bottom of the line low bid nation and they will have whatever is cheapest in them. My former supplies of good WW have dried right up. I've still got 2-300 lbs left, but odds are if I have need more alloy it will be bought fro Roto or some such place.
L Ross
Well-Known Member
200 or 300 pounds? You're 61, you were an on the road Trooper. What the hell were you doing out there? You could have picked up that much off the road during your career. Every tire shop in your district should have had 5 gallon buckets marked with a Magic Marker, "FOR BRET DO NOT TAKE." Heck, I got a Crown Vic hung up by the rear bumper trying to get up my driveway because of all the hospital x-ray lead in the trunk, and that was a legitimate run authorized by a Captain when we had stopped casting in house.
Winelover
North Central Arkansas
Personally, I never did use recycled WW's. Hard to get them, in Detroit, even forty years ago. Most tire shops had agreements with others, in place.
I just used whatever lead based metals I could acquire. Father was a tool & die trimmer. Tool and die moulds were tweaked by casting a pretty hard lead alloy into the dies. Alloy shrunk very little and allowed the trimmer to adjust/trim the dies based on the casting.
When I was young pre-teen, I use to make sinkers, have a lot of Do-It moulds, still. Dad would bring home the sprews. They were oval, about 1 1/2" long, 3/4" wide and 3/8" thick. Over the years, I had cast a lot of sinkers. Use to bank fish on the Detroit River. Made a lot of 7 ounce bank sinkers, way more than I needed.
Friend and I would take the $.25 DSR bus ride, couple days a week to fish, the river at the Belle Isle bridge. The foot of Jefferson Avenue and Detroit River, was the end of the bus line. Happens, that there was a bait shop, when the bus stopped. Crawfish and crawlers were sold, in addition to minnows. Driver would sit there, for a while, before the return trip. Back then they allowed us to carry our tackle and even fish home without any hassle. Belle Isle was where thy did the Gran Prix races, years later.
Later, graduated to strictly artificial lures and had not much need for sinkers. However, I started my bullet casting hobby, about then. So I just melted down most of those sinkers, I made over the years, into bullets.
That alloy was pretty hard. I had no way of measuring it, besides the fingernail test. I developed my own unscientific method. I knew RCBS moulds were calibrated with Lyman #2 alloy and weight was proportionate. So I cast bullets out of the mould and weighed them for average. I added pure lead, gradually, to get the bullets to drop to advertised weight. Came up with my own ratio and duplicated it. This was in the mid 70's, no internet , no forums, no mentors. Trial and error.
I'm still using some of that alloy. I've always tried to recover my bullets. I leased property, back in Michigan, to hunt on. There happened to be an exposed sand ridge. Perfect to set up targets and catch bullets. Dug them out, once a year, and recycled them. When I built in Arkansas, I had a truck load of river sand brought in, by the guy that did my septic, and dumped in a pile to create a sand berm. As a result, I still recover my alloy.
When I get lazy, or need specialize alloy. I purchase lino from Roto-Metals, to add to my pure stash. Pure is about the cheapest lead one can purchase. I use different ratios, based on need. Varies from 3-1 to 2-1 (pure to lino) but mostly it's the 3-1 ratio. When harder is need, I will heat treat. Over the years, my recovered alloy, stays pretty constant. BHN, measured by LBT tester, is about 13-15 air cooled after three weeks. Works for me.
I just used whatever lead based metals I could acquire. Father was a tool & die trimmer. Tool and die moulds were tweaked by casting a pretty hard lead alloy into the dies. Alloy shrunk very little and allowed the trimmer to adjust/trim the dies based on the casting.
When I was young pre-teen, I use to make sinkers, have a lot of Do-It moulds, still. Dad would bring home the sprews. They were oval, about 1 1/2" long, 3/4" wide and 3/8" thick. Over the years, I had cast a lot of sinkers. Use to bank fish on the Detroit River. Made a lot of 7 ounce bank sinkers, way more than I needed.
Friend and I would take the $.25 DSR bus ride, couple days a week to fish, the river at the Belle Isle bridge. The foot of Jefferson Avenue and Detroit River, was the end of the bus line. Happens, that there was a bait shop, when the bus stopped. Crawfish and crawlers were sold, in addition to minnows. Driver would sit there, for a while, before the return trip. Back then they allowed us to carry our tackle and even fish home without any hassle. Belle Isle was where thy did the Gran Prix races, years later.
Later, graduated to strictly artificial lures and had not much need for sinkers. However, I started my bullet casting hobby, about then. So I just melted down most of those sinkers, I made over the years, into bullets.
That alloy was pretty hard. I had no way of measuring it, besides the fingernail test. I developed my own unscientific method. I knew RCBS moulds were calibrated with Lyman #2 alloy and weight was proportionate. So I cast bullets out of the mould and weighed them for average. I added pure lead, gradually, to get the bullets to drop to advertised weight. Came up with my own ratio and duplicated it. This was in the mid 70's, no internet , no forums, no mentors. Trial and error.
I'm still using some of that alloy. I've always tried to recover my bullets. I leased property, back in Michigan, to hunt on. There happened to be an exposed sand ridge. Perfect to set up targets and catch bullets. Dug them out, once a year, and recycled them. When I built in Arkansas, I had a truck load of river sand brought in, by the guy that did my septic, and dumped in a pile to create a sand berm. As a result, I still recover my alloy.
When I get lazy, or need specialize alloy. I purchase lino from Roto-Metals, to add to my pure stash. Pure is about the cheapest lead one can purchase. I use different ratios, based on need. Varies from 3-1 to 2-1 (pure to lino) but mostly it's the 3-1 ratio. When harder is need, I will heat treat. Over the years, my recovered alloy, stays pretty constant. BHN, measured by LBT tester, is about 13-15 air cooled after three weeks. Works for me.
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L Ross
Well-Known Member
I want to see a video of conventionally lubed bullets kicking the butts of Maybelline bullets at 500 yards! Is there a waco go fund me yet?
I'd try it my self but then I'd have to buy powder coat powder, a convection oven, a PFD heat controller, (or what ever P thingy), silicone ice cube trays, hardware cloth, a hemostat, nitrile gloves, a temperature probe, drill into the convection oven ruining it, buy another convection oven., non stick Reynolds Wrap, parchment paper, and air soft BB's. I have an empty Cool Whip container in the faux tupperware drawer. No wait, the Cool Whip container has Spanish Braised Rabbit in it in the fridge. Does Dawn dish washing detergent get rabbit fat out of your way or do I need a new carton of Cool Whip too?
On the other hand....4 Star lubrisizers, all the dies, 6 cans of Johnson's One Step, and two quarts of X-lox might bring a tidy sum on Ebay or Gun broker. Hmmmmm. I can probably blend the Ben's Red back with some Lucas Red and Tacky and put it in a grease gun for the Kubota zerks.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
HAR! Where do you think all those great big truck wts came from?!! Sadly, I'm in duck country here and downrigger country. I wasn't the only guy loading up buckets of WW in his truck. The competition was fierce at times. I actually had to grease the skids at some places with donuts and such. I have to admit, the job got in the way of my shooting sports pursuits, and those people that live in my house...what do you call them, my family??? They got in the way too! Worst mistake I ever made was growing up and becoming a responsible adult...
I may have gotten a lead on several buckets of the "old" wheel weights.
The guy says his buddy has several plastic buckets that have fallen apart with wheel weights in them.
Hopefully this will work out and the weights will be old enough not to contain a lot of steel and zinc.
The guy says his buddy has several plastic buckets that have fallen apart with wheel weights in them.
Hopefully this will work out and the weights will be old enough not to contain a lot of steel and zinc.
Mitty38
Well-Known Member
Sounds like a good deal. Take them as is and run.
Get what you can.
Now me after they get home...
I just talk my wife and kid into thinking it's fun to sort them.When they are done, I get, what I get.
Bret4207
At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Thanks. I'd finally managed to get that mental image out of my head after the last time you mentioned it 10 or 12 yeas ago. Now it's right back at the front of the que!!!!!!!!
Ohhhhh, my........... a few of the posts on the second page caused me to imagine things I can't now UN-imagine.
I've always taken pride in not being the queazy type, but I think Ive found my Achille's heel in that respect.
And I have to cast this weekend!
My brother recently stumbled across a batch of WWs we made into ingots in the early/mid-seventies and it was an absolute joy to cast for several years. Spoiled me - AGAIN.
The only thing I can really say here is that the seventies WWs cast so well in the seventies that it made you feel like you had it all figured out. That old batch my brother found opened my eyes to something regarding quality over time with WWs.
That little windfall of seventies WWs made me realize that many of my "casting problems" since then were NOT ME! I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out how I'd lost my touch with casting.
I've always taken pride in not being the queazy type, but I think Ive found my Achille's heel in that respect.
And I have to cast this weekend!
My brother recently stumbled across a batch of WWs we made into ingots in the early/mid-seventies and it was an absolute joy to cast for several years. Spoiled me - AGAIN.
The only thing I can really say here is that the seventies WWs cast so well in the seventies that it made you feel like you had it all figured out. That old batch my brother found opened my eyes to something regarding quality over time with WWs.
That little windfall of seventies WWs made me realize that many of my "casting problems" since then were NOT ME! I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out how I'd lost my touch with casting.