Vihtavouri primers!

Spindrift

Well-Known Member
Nammo, the company owning Vihtavouri, have announced they're building a large primer plant in Finland.
This is good news for all of us. The more producers we have, the less vulnerable the supply

 

fiver

Well-Known Member
yep it'll keep more primers available there and cut down on the amount sent over from here.

probably better too, the Finn's are pretty serious about their shooting,,, they ain't as good as the Dane's, or the Swede's,,, but they are serious about it...LOL
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
just as a side not.
LaPua is cutting down in their brass imports to the U.S.
they are even going so far as to not send over any cases in some cartridges, and are cutting back on what numbers they do send in the rest.
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
just as a side not.
LaPua is cutting down in their brass imports to the U.S.
they are even going so far as to not send over any cases in some cartridges, and are cutting back on what numbers they do send in the rest.
Well, there is a war going on right next door, so they may be building up reserve ammo. Just a thought now that they are a NATO country.
 

300BLK

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Well, there is a war going on right next door, so they may be building up reserve ammo. Just a thought now that they are a NATO country.
Neither Finland or Sweden have been ratified into NATO. Hungary and Turkey are the two members holding that up.
 
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Rick H

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I think Turkey is holding out for F-16's so they can bomb the Kurds more efficiently. If it wasn't for the Straights of Bosphorus and the Dardanelles we might be better off without Turkey.
Ahh too close to politics...........remove this if it breaks rules.
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
I can understand that component shortages could be on account of defense industries diverting commercial production to wartime materiel assembly. I still think the drought is largely sustained by greed and avarice. We as hobbyists shouldn't facilitate that bad business through our dollars to such buccaneers.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
The current geopolitical situation does call for increased production capacity. But I think there is room for another producer in the long run, as well.
Particularly a producer known for uncompromising quality.
Definitely room and there's no question on quality. But I have to think the recreational market for primers is dwarfed by that of the defense industries.
 

fiver

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extremely minuscule, and they make no bones about that fact.
they will flat out tell you we only get their leftovers.... and they don't care one way or the other.

plain and simple they are in the business to make and sell ammunition.
if you want to make your own, buy when they put it on the shelf in quantity... period... don't whine when it ain't there you had your chance.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
I don't remember component shortages during the Vietnam War or the Gulf War. Primers cost what they do because people are paying it. There doesn't seem enough discipline for enough people to withhold t heir dollars, and OH!, there's NO COMPETITION, so why on earth would anyone expand production? It's greed. All the other "logical" explanations are void. I got that when the guy from Hornady did that whiny video about doing all they can.

......buy when they put it on the shelf in quantity... period... don't whine when it ain't there you had your chance.

I have no room to "whine," as I have primers. I HAVE planned ahead and have easily weathered many "droughts" in the past, yet, I "whine."

I may not have enough to last the rest of my life, but I'm not exactly desperate either. I've noticed, from time to time that I'm "low" on a specific primer and had to buy some and not always at the ideal moment. This recent drought though, has reached farther and deeper than any I've witnessed before and I'm sure many have come up short, but I do not doubt most people posting here have been at least somewhat responsible in stocking up, so I don't think "whining" applies here, but yeah, I think it applies. I do know people who relied on someone else holding their inventory and administering a "just-in-time" philosophy, which I think is irresponsible.

My chances came over many years of slow accumulation, good luck, bad luck and MODERATION in usage. I've PAID for what little I do have and I do resent the fact that it is being eroded because of greed. I BUILT that little buffer, that surplus and it's been enough to get me through all the previous "droughts," plus, but this is beyond ridiculous and I do have something to say about even though I've bought when they'd put it on the shelf in quantity.

Nothing wrong with discussing it.
 

fiver

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i'm not trying to admonish anyone here, i'm just stating the facts of how it is, and how it's always been.

yeah this is deeper and longer and we are being taken advantage of, if we are buying stuff as we use it.
just today i seen primers at 5.60 per hundred, last i seen in person were 49.99 a brick about a year ago.
that just tells me the 79 and 99 dollar prices are simply,, we got some and your gonna pay the going rate we settled on.
look at the stuff coming in from south america it's right in there.
we all know full well they are like promo packs of shotshells that were 5 bucks a box 2 years back.
no way in hell even adjusting for inflation and cost increases they are worth 12.99 now.
but even at that powder just took a jump at some places, not the 10-15% we were seeing about every year but now 30%..

is it cause and effect?? probably, it's becoming available and someone is gonna pay it.