What Did You Shoot Today?

Jeff H

NW Ohio
This morning's shoot was with the 6 1/2" S&W 624 and the 5 1/2" .357 Mag. New Vaquero, both with test loads and targets set at 10 yards. Both front sights have grown blurrier and the targets confirmed it.

I've a discontinued Lyman Hawkeye eyeglass thingie, but the suction cup lost its suction two or three years ago. This morning's target spoke, and I better start on some suction replacement experimenting.
Not sure if you wear bifocals, but I do and they really mess with your shooting.

Couple days ago, I was checking out some mild-38-level 357 Mag WC loads in carbine and revolver, specifically at ten yards, because that's usually how far varmints/vermin are that I loaded these for.

First five out of a 3" revolver over a rest were about 2" low and one shot opened the "group" to 2 1/2".

THEN, I remembered to turn my bifocal upside-down to shoot and the group was more than cut in half and dead-on at POA.

The outline of that front sight is already about as crisp as the outline of a potato and fuzzying it up further with the wrong part of my lenses does me no good.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Not sure if you wear bifocals, but I do and they really mess with your shooting.
Yep, bifocals and shooting off hand. Till four and five years ago, I shot handguns off sandbags, but switched to off hand to practice for my concealed carry license live fire qualifications. Also, in those four or five years the guns have gotten heavier and unsteadier. As the calendar pages flip from one to another weird stuff happens.
 

popper

Well-Known Member
Grandson tried his almost working MSR in 308W. Fires OK but won't pick up next rnd. Changed bolt from before where it wouldn't eject. We tried different mags, then my bolt. Then my upper/his lower - that worked. Then his upper/my lower - that worked also. Empty case got picked up but stuck on front of upper. Not sure what the problem is - any ideas?
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
Burr someplace. The .0005 here and there and in this spot and that one is changing an angle just enough to gum up the works .

I had this knock off High Power didn't care about OAL , nose , shape , mags , crimp , the stupid thing thrived on that 356-124 TLTC ........I have 300 rd that won't run unless I put my thumb on the slide every time because the front/top band hit just enough to keep it out of battery. Seriously it's like extractor detent out of battery .

A friend has a SS Rossi M92 that will run 38s like water through a hose , 357s require it to be turned on its side and wiggled just so ........

I had a couple 92s in 45 Colts that would not feed RP brass all of the others including Schofield brass fed fine . Got nothing there .

The parts swapping success would suggest to me changing of tolerances within specification.
 

popper

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Yup, but where is the question. Was 103F and evening but I did look at feed ramps, seemed to be correct. Did notice an empty case caught on the upper below the ramp. IIRC this was put together by a friend armorer, aero parts. I've put several together, no problems. Kinda stumped to tell him how to fix.
 
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462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
Pedersoli/Navy Arms Buffalo rifle .45-70 rolling block:
First up was Lyman's 457132 535-grainers, and Lyman's starting load of 23.0-grains of Accurate 5744. Loaded 10, shot five from 50-yards. Didn't want to press my accuracy luck so stopped at five.
First shot was the one at 11:00, the next four created the ragged hole.
Five shots North/South .411" East/West .609
Four shots North/South .266" East/West .216"
Measured outside to outside and .459" subtracted.
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A big thank you goes out to Rich for providing the unsolicited bullets!
My twice whiplashed neck is waiting for the Advil to kick in.

Next up was the Lyman 457193 405-grainer and 24.0-grains of 2400, a load provided by Ric.
Obviously, not as heavy a recoiler than the above load, nor was it anywhere as accurate, so will stick with the rifle's accuracy load of 15.7-grains of Unique.

The 03A3's accuracy suffered from an overall cleaning it got when I refinished its wood.
 

obssd1958

Well-Known Member
Popper, this probably sounds funny, but swap the recoil springs and buffers around. We got a .308 upper that evidently had the AR15 spring and buffer in it. We fought exactly the same issue as you are, and cured it by putting the proper spring and buffer in it.
 

L Ross

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What a frenzy the Cast Bullet shoot was! Barely organized chaos. The actual keep score competition thing went right out the window early on. The only actual shooting where somebody spotted and somebody else wrote it down was a 30 shot, offhand contest between myself and Longhunter. 10 shots at 80 yards at 5" diamonds, 10 shot at 160 yards at 8" diamonds, and 10 shots at 210 yards at buffalo silhouettes. We each shot 5 shots at each rail, alternating and reset and shot 5 again. It was popular with the spectators and Jon and I.

The steel I picked up turned out to be hard. Not AR-500 hard but pretty darned hard, barely a dimple at 50 yards with 55 gr. fmj from a .223. Plus I got my AR-500 gongs out and hung them below some of the rails and that allowed jacketed stuff to be used and Katie Bar the Door, the frenzy was on.

Tailgates dropped, hard cases sprang open, the rifle rack was filled, trips to the gun safes were made. A 13 year old grandson of one of my shooters was invited and that polite, safe, young man probably shoot up 200 bucks worth of stuff. Everyone wanted to help him and let him try their rifles and ammo. I do believe that young man had one seriously good time.

A partial list of what I know got fired last week would include. Trapdoor .45-70 with black, a beautiful German 10.7x47mm, (that might not be quite right), in a Martini action, multiple 03A3 and 03 Springfields, multiple Enfields, a M-1A close quarters combat nasty loud ugly gun in an Arch Angel stock, a heavy worked over and tricked out AR with a muzzle break that was so frickin' loud it was universally hated by the bystanders, a Sante Fe 53 caliber plains rifle, ordinary AR's in .223, a S&W M&P 22/15, a Winchester Model 72 .22, a Kidd Super Grade 10-22 clone, a couple of other rebuilt 10-22's with heavy barrels and good glass, a couple of Model 700's in .308 and 40-X stocks, a Remington 783 in .30-06, an 1889 vintage Winchester Hi-Wall in .32-40, a AR in 7.62x39 that ran like a watch with cast, a Chinese SKS, a Rossi .22 semi auto, a Contender in .357 Herrett, the .38-40 New Service, a .45 Colt Black Hawk, a Ruger .44 spl Bisley, the FA Model 97 with the .45 acp cylinder in it, a Super BH, a 1957 Flat Top .44 mag, a German made .22 revolver that looked like a Colt SAA, and a Rossi break action rifle in 7.62x39 scoped.

That only is what I actually saw fired on the line. I was cooking and fetchin' and steppin' the whole time and may have missed some stuff.

There were so many knock down targets and gongs painted white along with some sighter gongs. We went through 7 cans of Rustoleum 2X premium flat white primer , and two cans of fluorescent orange just for spraying stenciled bullseyes on the sighters. The Polaris Ranger used a half tank of gas just running to reset targets. I was told I had every kids dream of a shooting gallery by several of my shooters. It is the culmination of a long term goal of mine. We had rails at 25, 50, 80, 160, and 210 yards. We shot from beneath a 10'x20' roofed gravel base with two full size benches and an 8' table for spotting scopes, cleaning gear and ammo.

All in all this event was pretty incredible.
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
a German made .22 revolver that looked like a Colt SAA,
I have one of those, it's a 7/8 clone of a SAA, or the same size as a Frontier Scout. Produced by Ernst Schmidt and marked L. A.'s Deputy. Aluminum frame and grip frame, steel barrel and cylinder. It's so inaccurate it shoots round corners like those WW II rifles the Germans experimented with, but missing the mirror.
 

popper

Well-Known Member
Out with the Henry again, did pretty well @ 50 and 168 amax. 145 GC PC wasn't as good. Probably not sized right.
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Winelover

North Central Arkansas
Went out back. Shot the 9mm CZ scorpion at 60 yards. Tested 4.9 grains of True Blue with NOE's 136 grain (my alloy) RF and NOE's 130 TC with 4.1 grains of W231, both GC designs and conventionally lubed.

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Tried the dregs of True Blue in the 3" Lew Horton at 15 yards DA. Low shots are..........fatigue rearing its ugly head. Same load in the fixed sighted 2 1/2" Bulldog were all below the paper on a different target........target not shown.
 
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popper

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Henry 308 @ 100 & 92F today. Pretty crowded at the range.
edit: had to take ~ 10 thous off the shell holder to get the cases to chamber. More work. Had 15 that chambered fine, another 15 that didn't. Pulled those and resized. Got to save primers and powder these days. Got another 50 loaded for the ar10, might pull them and trim and resize. or just shoot in the ar?
Anyway, happy with my shooting, for an old man. And the rifle works great.
 

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L Ross

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Shot 20 some rounds through the 10" .357 Contender. I don't have a scope on it yet but I put a cheap red dot on it so I could at least play with it. I'm going to have to tighten up my loading protocols. I'd put two shots almost touching at 80, then one 4" high and one 2" low. So I really really tried hard and put one in the center. Switched to the 5" knock down diamonds and got five with six shots.

Then I decided to look at my head stamps. Yup, mixed casings. Mostly R-P and those were my center hits. A few W-W, a Federal, and a couple of oddball head stamps I couldn't decipher without my cheaters. Blasting handgun ammo at 25 yards or less through a revolver is one thing, shootin' a really accurate at longer range is another. Next thing you know I'll be, (gasp), buying dedicated brass for the darned thing.
 

RBHarter

West Central AR
So many places I wander say over and over HS sorting pistol brass is a fools errand and here you are providing me right ......... :)

Yep 7' it doesn't matter , might not even at 75' , but why waste the parts and time if you're not going to match the best or improve on mass production ?

Improve is almost a topic of its own , sometimes it means 1 hole and sometimes it just means the brass all lands in a 5 gallon bucket . :) :)
 

Snakeoil

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I wear progressives/no line bifocals. See the front sight and target fine. Rear sight a tad blurry.
Rear sight is blurry if you have 15 year old eyes. Geesh.

Eyes cannot focus at two different focal lengths. Saying the rear sight is a little blurry is more like braggin' than complainin'. ;) Most guys with gray hair say "There's a rear sight???". :rofl:
 

Snakeoil

Well-Known Member
Today was the .22 match at the club. 3 MOA diameter targets set at 50, 100, 150 and 200 yds. 40 rounds for score. Then a 2 shot offhand buffalo target set at 300 yds. Buffalo is 10-1/8" wide by 12-1/4" high. It's a knock down target, not a swinger.

Shot a 35/40. Strange things happening downrange. Both my partner and my buddy at the next bench as well as myself had rounds go 6 inches high for no discernable reason. There was probably an invisible twister out there with a big updraft or similar that sucked those bullets up. Just another of the humbling aspects of shooting long range. You learn at every match that you still have not figured it all out yet.

I did hit the offhand buffalo at 300 to win another pewter pin for my shooting box. I think 4 guys hit the buffalo today.

Overall, a great day. Only downside was the after-shoot discussion turned to the new NYS gun regs and I have to admit it had my stomach in such a knot that I decided I'd had enough and left. Why people have to carp endlessly over this stuff is beyond me. Carp in the voting booth. Go protest. Quit whining to the choir. Geesh.... It's like a bunch of old women complaining about being fat and having gray hair. Go on a diet, get it dyed and quit bitchin'!

Sorry, I was bitchin' there, wasn't I? :headbang:
 

462

California's Central Coast Amid The Insanity
With numerous floaters in both eyes, including a massive one in the right (dominate) eye that's like looking through Saran Wrap, a repaired detached right eye retina, a newly developed wrinkle on the same retina, bifocals, it's no wonder front sights are blurry, targets are blurry and misshaped, and 100-yard accurate shooting has become a challenge.
 

Rick

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Rear sight is blurry if you have 15 year old eyes. Geesh.

Eyes cannot focus at two different focal lengths. Saying the rear sight is a little blurry is more like braggin' than complainin'. ;) Most guys with gray hair say "There's a rear sight???". :rofl:

That's an understatement. I've been through many different prescription lenses, Champion Shooting Glasses and about everything/anything else you can imagine. I can choose lenses for one, target or sights. Never both. If I use a lens that allows me to see the sights the target isn't blurry, it isn't even out there. Choose a lens to see the target and there are no sights on the gun. A scope helps some, but the cross hairs are quite blurry. Best I've come up with is a red dot, but I've never learned to shoot groups with red dots. They can get me on target but with shotgun patterns. Fond memories of the old days. Sure does take the fun out of shooting.