Wheel Weights vs Range Scrap

[Brad]

Obturate in the typically meant context of expanding to fill the bore under pressure may be a hold over from the old BP days.

A mini does expand to fill the bore under pressure.

Great example of what I call the “Not everything in one Shooting discipline extrapolates to the others”.

I can assure you that 92/6/2 bullets listed as .358 but actually measuring .356 will lead the shit out of a Gp100 in under 50 rounds. Like bullets hit the target sideways lead. Hard isn’t always the answer.

 

[waco]

Freddie Mercury demonstrated the best Under Pressure. With a little help from David Bowie of course.

 

[Brad]

Vanilla Ice had a sample…….

 

[fiver]

Bowie and Annie Lennox with queen backing them.

 

[waco]

You guys should look up a band on YouTube called Mad Season. I’m in a cover band playing their songs on guitar. Let me know what you think. That band had members from Alice In Chains, Pear Jam, and the Screaming Trees. They were a Seattle super group from the mid ‘90’s

 

[Brad]

Sorry Walter, no grunge for me. Pearl Jam? Yuck. AIC isn’t much better. They should be down in a hole. And buried.

 

[waco]

That’s rough man. You might be surprised by some of these songs Brad. Check out River of Deceit. Not a grunge sounding song at all.

 

[Bret4207]

Interesting read, at least they go beyond "HARDER is the answer. Once I got to the Lee formula and the need to have a 16-18 Bhn bullet to plunk a bullet downrange at 900 fps...well, to each their own!

 

[Red Bear]

am i missing something? people talk about sorting range scrap, what i get from an indoor range looks like it has been through a shredder. it can not be sorted. i think the bullets break up on there back stop. but there is about a 1/4 to 1/2 pound of powder per 5 gal bucket. makes for interesting smelting. fit to barrel is far more important than hardness. i am a big 32 fan and own a few. the bores range from .308 to .314. it can be a pain with so many different sizes for same caliber.

 

[Jeff H]

am i missing something?...

I THINK most are thinking in terms of outdoor ranges with dirt back-stops. Even glacial erratics and buried bits of antique farm implements don't tear bullets up badly enough that I can't positively ID what I dig out of mine.

 

[Dimner]

Vanilla Ice had a sample…….

Well... legally, Mr Baggypants Ice claimed it was not a sample and there was one 16th (or was it 8th) note of a difference in the base riff. It's comical to see him try and explain it.

You guys should look up a band on YouTube called Mad Season. I’m in a cover band playing their songs on guitar. Let me know what you think. That band had members from Alice In Chains, Pear Jam, and the Screaming Trees. They were a Seattle super group from the mid ‘90’s

When I was in college in the 90's my band also used to cover a Mad Season tune. They were a good super group. I never did dig Pearl Jam or Soundgarden, but I was all in for Alice in Chains.

 

[Dimner]

So far, I have been through about 600 lbs of indoor range scrap, 99% of everything i process looks like someone took a lead marble and smashed it with those power hammer things a black smith uses. All that's left is a 3/4 round potato chip looking thin bit of lead.

The backstop at the indoor range is all made of very thick iron or steel. Being near Detroit, we have alot of engineers. A retired engineer from ford designed our backstop. Each of the 15 lanes basically has a 12 foot tall vertical bullet trap wedge that by some black magic of science and geometry deflects the bullets to a pipe and drops the lead down into a 2.5 gallon bucket. I'm explaining this poorly. Probably doesn't sound possible, but it works wonderfully. Bonus is, it makes getting range scrap lead as easy as pie.

Out of that 600 lbs, just last week I found the first ever projectile that I could identify as a bullet. No idea on the alloy of course, but they were cast and PCed red. They had rifling marks and it looks as if the nose may have sheared off. I found about a dozen I found in the scrap. I think I kept one for grins and giggles.

 

[Ian]

Federal produces cartridges for 9mm and probably others which are loaded with a polymer coated lead alloy bullet, IIRC the coating is red.

 

[462]

Mike Venturino wrote a Handloader article about Missouri Bullet Company's painted cast bullets -- they were red.

 

[Brad]

My range scrap is all from outdoor ranges. Most of mine are barely deformed beyond rifling marks.

 

[fiver]

mine are chips and flecks.
a lot of mine i only get back the gas check and maybe a portion of the base drive band.
if i go over to the pistol pit and dig i can find some jacketed stuff that's dented but not broken, or more likely big round flat pieces maybe a MM thick at most.

 

[Brad]

I only dig the pistol berms. Sure wish more guys shot 45s.

No shovel used other than a 44 special or 45 Colt

 

[358156 hp]

am i missing something? people talk about sorting range scrap, what i get from an indoor range looks like it has been through a shredder. it can not be sorted. i think the bullets break up on there back stop. but there is about a 1/4 to 1/2 pound of powder per 5 gal bucket. makes for interesting smelting. fit to barrel is far more important than hardness. i am a big 32 fan and own a few. the bores range from .308 to .314. it can be a pain with so many different sizes for same caliber.

Most indoor ranges do indeed practically powder the spent bullets. Much depends on the design of the baffles.