Wilson Combat letter on CC info stolen

Tomme boy

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Got a 4th letter about CC info getting stolen. This time it was from Wilson Combat. It was from Sept 17, 2020 to Feb 3, 2022. It was the company that they use to process their CC payments.

This is getting old fast. We just got new cards a few months back because we had a charge on our cards a few states away at a gun store if you can believe that. The old lady about did not say anything as she thought I might have actually ordered something and forgot to tell her.
 

BudHyett

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I worked wth Boeing IT Security when we built and implemented the 787 Global Collaboration Enterprise linking Boeing (Design, Production, Sales, Support) with Partners and Suppliers. You will be surprised at the ingenuity and brashness of hackers.

You'd also be surprised at the stupidity of some Partner's IT groups. Hackers would attempt to pass our firewall through our Partners and the Partners would forward the request.

You can never be too vigilant.
 
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Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Is it possible to send in an order form with a check or money order anymore?

Ahhh, for the days of The Shotgun News once again.
Agree. I just sent Paypal a note telling them I was done using their service due to recent actions they've taken related to social issues. I write checks at several local businesses because the CC companies charge them so much and it cuts their already slim profits. A person from church had one of those "Go Fund Me" things to bury her mother. I sent $40.00 and then saw the Go Fund Me people charged me $6.00 to use the service!!! Screw that!

The digital world is great, and it's awful, all at the same time.
 

Snakeoil

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Pretty sure that the digital world would not exist if people could not make money with it.
 

popper

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Remember the Love attack? Guess who opened it and infected the entire company. IT manager! Bud - you work at Boeing field or Everett?
 
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BudHyett

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Remember the Love attack? Guess who opened it and infected the entire company. IT manager! Bud - you work at Boeing Field or Everett?
I worked in Puget Sound wherever required and sometimes traveled globally. I was based in Everett.
 

Todd M

Craftsman of metals...always learning.
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Is it possible to send in an order form with a check or money order anymore?

Ahhh, for the days of The Shotgun News once again.
In short, yes.

I am slowly switching payments from checks or debit card to postal money orders. I use cash on everything we buy local. And with that mindset, we shop more local now. No Amazon. Period. Get to know the folks around you. I had a customer ask if I would take silver coins in payment the other day. If we were more established financially after moving I would have considered it. Cash is still legal and it gives you privacy and sometimes a bit (or a lot) of bargaining power.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
Problem is there is so much that we simply can't get locally, we have to order it. Most of what I need I need NOW, not in 2-3 weeks. It's a pickle, trying to support local businesses that won't/can't inventory stuff and that charge 1/3 to twice as much at that! I was listening to radio show discussing digital currency the other day. Now, the idea of using an anonymous form of payment is fine by me. But the whole concept of buying electrons to use as currency just sets my head to spinning! Not that I don't understand we basically do that now, but there's a cash element to a CC. Not with Bitcoin, etc. There's something to be said for cash, or better yet precious metals. But I'm not enough of an underground economy type to put much $$$ in silver and gold. Plus, I don't know how to ID silver or gold! That's why we came up with coins in the first place, uniformity and trust!

Wah! Like I said, it's a pickle trying to keep ahead of the game these days.
 

fiver

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the problem with digital money is it's value changes by the minute.
there is some town in florida that pays it's employee's in AIRC bit coin.
their pay check could be 1 grand one week and 6 grand the next if the employee plays his cards just so and they get lucky watching the market.

in some places cash still has it's advantages.
i saved about 400$ on getting my driveway done the other day simply by flashing 100$ bills and using a little negotiation.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
The other side is the problem with cash, that if you physically lose it it's gone without a trace. Not always so with digital.

But yeah, cash in hand is a better bargaining tool than a check or a card!!!
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
An option, true. My thing with actual gold and silver coins is that no matter what it looks like, I don't know gold or silver from brass or zinc. If things go sideways and you come to me for a lamb and hand me a gold coin, I'm handing it right back to you! Bring me primers or nails or good rope.
 

fiver

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the thing about it is if it's an actual shut down situation everyone has to agree on it's value.
there won't be a meeting about it, and an ounce of gold may have cost you 1600 dollars, but i sure ain't gonna trade you 1600 dollars worth of 30-06 for it.
the other thing is how do i weigh it ? or split it up, not everyone has a 505 kicking around.
 

Tomme boy

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22rf and shot shells and water will be worth more than any gold bar if it really comes down to that level. If you really are thinking it is going that way, you need to get several types of water purifiers. We have life straws, sawyer filters and pills. And stock up on medicines if you can.
 

Bret4207

At the casting bench in the sky. RIP Bret.
I don't know whats going to happen. I thought it was all going to crash back around '08. It should have. Whats looming now is far, far worse potentially, and over most of the world. But I've been wrong on this stuff every time. Maybe things are more resilient than common sense, numbers and the evidence would indicate. Either way, I've got multiple good wells, livestock, I'm "bugging in" and a decent skill set. No one ever has enough ammo!
 

Rick H

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Back some years my wife's friend and her dentist husband were into "emergency preparedness" and began stocking their huge basement with food and survival equipment. She had to tell everyone around her about her plans and how much "stuff" they had accumulated so they would be prepared. I asked her about firearms.
She blanched and said oh no, "we don't believe in guns".
She then asked what we (my wife and I) did to prepare for the coming crash. I told her not a damn thing, she already did it for me. She gave me a quizzical look and I smiled and said, I have guns I will take your stuff.

Yuppie survivalists ready to face the brave new world! They outgrew that "phase" and each other, divorced. I wonder if they split all that stuff in the settlement?
 

CZ93X62

Official forum enigma
"Yuppie" and "survivalist" seem almost mutually exclusive to me.

Doesn't 'Believe in guns'? What a shame that carjackers DO INDEED.