38spl hbwc thoughts?

[Bazoo]

Heck SWCs are not speedloader friendly either. Truncated or RF would be the way to go there.

 

[StrawHat]

Are wadcutters the easiest bullet to charge a cylinder? No. That would be a round nose bullet. But, thousands of PPC competitors learned how to reload with wadcutters effectively and speedily.

Or, WC for the first cylinder and whatever is your choice for the reload.

Many ways to get to the finish line, choose the one that works best for you!

Kevin

 

[oscarflytyer]

In 50+ years of handloading, never had use for a WC. They are not speed loader friendly and I don't compete in Bullseye matches.

Then you have no use for them.

well - that explains why I keep looking at them sitting on my shelf, and they are still sitting on my shelf

 

[Reeferman]

A good way to ring your barrel!

Yup I did that to my 14-3 with 8 inch barrel. Made a mistake and had powder measure set for Lee trashcan wad cutter when loading some Campro copper plated HBWC. It only took 2 grains more of Bullseye and happened after second shot.

 

[JonB]

Heck SWCs are not speedloader friendly either. Truncated or RF would be the way to go there.

I classify them like this.
RF or TC ammo in speedloaders for revolver = "Just fall in"
SWC ammo in speedloaders for revolver = "wiggle it and they fall in"
WC ammo in speedloaders for revolver = "get out the damn reading glasses to align them MFers"

 

[Bazoo]

I classify them like this.
RF or TC ammo in speedloaders for revolver = "Just fall in"
SWC ammo in speedloaders for revolver = "wiggle it and they fall in"
WC ammo in speedloaders for revolver = "get out the damn reading glasses to align them MFers"

LOL, yep.

 

[Ben]

Why is it critical that self defense rounds work with a speed loader ?

 

[Petrol & Powder]

Why is it critical that self defense rounds work with a speed loader ?

For the exceptionally rare possibility that a reload might be needed.

But you knew that.

 

[Outpost75]

Why is it critical that self defense rounds work with a speed loader ?

Because some younger wheelgunners never learned to grasp pairs of loose rounds to insert into the charge holes and they don't carry a backup gun as a New York Reload. FYI a double-end, bevel-based WC like the Saeco #348 IS speed loader friendly.

 

[Ben]

Seems that I've been working at a great disadvantage for yrs.

 

[Outpost75]

Why is it critical that self defense rounds work with a speed loader ?

So that the round bulge of that speed loader in your pocket gives fair warning to the steeple that you are "armed and ready."

You sure wouldn't want to carry a flat, easily concealed Tuff Strip or spare mag for a compact, single-stack autopistol in your pocket because doing so is "evil and sneaky!"

 

[Bret4207]

Why is it critical that self defense rounds work with a speed loader ?

It's not. But in the mind of the mall ninja, he'll be fighting off hoards of mutant zombie bikers...

 

[Ben]

That makes me feel better Bret .

 

[fiver]

It's not. But in the mind of the mall ninja, he'll be fighting off hoards of mutant zombie electric bike riders...

updated it for ya.

 

[CZ93X62]

It's not. But in the mind of the mall ninja, he'll be fighting off hoards of mutant zombie bikers...

I see you've never visited Kalifornistan. (J/K)

 

[358156 hp]

Lymans 358432 works well with speedloaders. I even see competition shooters using them.

 

[Bret4207]

updated it for ya.

 

[Matt_G]

Avoiding the need for wc cases and wanting +p loads

As an aside here...Starline 38 Special brass IS wadcutter brass.
From the mouth to about half way to the web it is straight sided and right at .010 thick

At least the two boxes I have bought are that way.
That doesn't mean it's ALWAYS that way though.
You need to check it.

 

[Bret4207]

Here, let me throw another stick on the fire. I have never, ever understood the theory that a wad cutter MUST be loaded so the case mouth and face of the bullet are at the same depth. I've loaded a lot of WC's out a good long ways and they were just as, if not more accurate than the traditional method.

Any thoughts?

 

[Petrol & Powder]

Here, let me throw another stick on the fire. I have never, ever understood the theory that a wad cutter MUST be loaded so the case mouth and face of the bullet are at the same depth. I've loaded a lot of WC's out a good long ways and they were just as, if not more accurate than the traditional method.

Any thoughts?

Not much controversy there. The S&W model 52 required flush seated WC’s, so they get a pass. As for revolvers, there are lots of options. I tend to use a type II wadcutter that has a driving band outside the case, like a H&G #50, so nothing shocking there either.