429-650

STIHL

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I have no idea what to do with this. I saw it and said I think I need that and bid on it and won. Is anyone shooting one it’s a 300gr mold designed for silhouette shooting. Found it interesting. I’ll probably give it a try when I can. I’ve got about 5 other molds ahead of it to make a run with. Mold is in really good shape and appears not to have been used a whole lot. Lineup pins and holes are still in really good condition.
 

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STIHL

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I have drove some 270-275 grain 429-244s that hard with 24 of H110 and it is painful, and quite over book max, I had a brain fart that day, just glad it wasn’t bad. I was thinking about 18 grains or so.

Just looked at the Lyman book and 18.5 is max for that bullet. Hadn’t thought to look, but it has data for the 650 and the Lee 310 grain. That’s good to know. Looks like 15-16 grains of H108 would also work well according to my hornady manual.

Hey, I guess if I ever run across the need to stop an freight train, I’m covered!
 
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Rick

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put about 23-24grs. of H-110 under it and go have fun?

:eek: In the 44 mag with a 300 gr bullet?

Most 44 mag revolvers in silhouette found 23.5 gr of H-110 with a 240 gr bullet to be the accuracy load. In fact, that load is so common it's known as the house load.
 

Winelover

North Central Arkansas
I get pretty good results with Alliant 2400, in my Marlin carbine with RCBS's 300 SWC version. Forearm resting on a camera tripod, sitting at 60 yards I haven't shot any in the RH...........the extra recoil isn't worth it and it prints about 8" high.

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beagle

Active Member
Got a 320 grain Keith made by H&G eons ago. Nice shooting bullet but larger than my needs. In grizz country maybe. Fun to shoot up old washers at the dump. Shoot some, load a box "just in case" and enjoy. My 4" M29 digested them just fine with an appropriate lod of H-110 or WW 296./beagle
 

Missionary

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You can load it into any 44 brass... Russian might be a bit short. All sorts of hogs and corn cruncher types been Nucker-plunked with a 300 grainer at 800-1100 fps.
Would really shine in a 445 Supermag Dan Wesson ! That will get it up to 1200-1300 fps in a 10" barrel.
A Carbine barrel in 44 Mag will give a couple more hundred FPS over the 44 mag revolvers.
And as mentioned the 444 will give ya another couple hundred FPS ...
 

Missionary

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Beagle... You reminded me we have a near new Blue 4" M29 sitting in storage we have neglected for years.. Always been grabbing the DW's to use on ILL-Nois bean eaters.
 

STIHL

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I have a henry 44 mag, I don't know if they will cycle in it, the 429-421 will cycle but it makes a fuss doing it. I may have to single load them in it. It's worth a shot. I bet it will make a thump when it connects thought.
 

JonB

Halcyon member
Yeah, I'd load those for that Henry. I bet you can find a seating depth to cycle in it. I have a 411-255 Ranch dog that weighs 260gr, and cycles in my Henry BBS 41 mag (COAL=1.600"). That's kind of close to the 300 gr in 44 mag.
 

shuz

Active Member
The 429650 is great for making a soft nose hunting round a-la-BruceB. I take the nose of the two part Lyman 429??? (Can't remember the full number,) but cast it outta pure lead and then when they cool, just drop them down inside the 429650 after it is up to temp and continue filling with your regular harder alloy. The little tail on the nose part mixes up nicely with the other alloy and forms a tight bond.
 

todd

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i loaded a 300gr SAECO FN GC with 24.0gr of 2400/tuft of Dacron that goes 1624fps. it is a great round for deer under 100 yards. it doesn't recoil much and the 300gr goes thru deer. the 300gr isn't hard on my ears either.
 

Thumbcocker

Active Member
An acquaintance of mine became obsessed with heavy bullets going fast in .44s. He had a chronograph. He began load development with 296. He found a load that shot very well and would have penetrated most critters in North America and any deer that ever walked but did not meet his velocity threshold. Just a few more grains... He blew the cylinder and topstrap on a Super Blackhawk. A notable achievement for an amature ballastician. So ended the quest for the .44 swift.
 

STIHL

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Yea, I’m not after extreme speed. Book says 18.5 of H110 will do 1036. If I have to put money on it 18 grains and 1000 FPS or slightly under is going to be a hard to beat load. 17-17.5 grains of H108 should do quite nice as well. Also have some N-110 that would be good to use on this project.

Kind of had an ah-ha moment and think this bullet would do very well in a marlin Dark 44 mag with a suppressor. Hard hitting and subsonic…….. now to find a dark 44 mag! Also been looking at a CVA scout 44 mag. I could have the barrel threaded, and out a suppressor on it as well. That sounds like fun too. There might actually be some practical use for this bullet the longer I think on it.
 
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