5 cavity NOE, .44 cal. W/C mould is on the way.

Ben

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I'm not certain yet, but I'm thinking that this one will be about 10 grs. heavier than the Lee.
 
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Ben

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Tracking data says I'll have the mould on Monday.
Temps here are over 100 each day, .........BUT...........knowing me,
I'll have to get the mould outside and cast a hundred or so.

Ben
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
Do you plan to:
(A) powder coat
(B) tumble lube
(C) conventional lube and how many grooves get filled

Just curious.
 

Jeff H

NW Ohio
Tracking data says I'll have the mould on Monday.
Temps here are over 100 each day, .........BUT...........knowing me,
I'll have to get the mould outside and cast a hundred or so.

Ben

There's gotta be some shade somewhere.

Maybe even someplace where there's a breeze.

Might be out by the mailbox, but there's always extension cords.;)
 

Ben

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Do you plan to:
(A) powder coat
(B) tumble lube
(C) conventional lube and how many grooves get filled

Just curious.
A combination of B & C

I'll start out with the bottom ring only with Ben's Red and then roll them in BLL. Should work fine. I don't plan on any blistering speeds with this bullet.

Ben
 
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Ben

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The mould arrived today.
I'm a happy camper ! !
The bullets are round at .4335"
They drop from the mould easily.
I'm anxious to shoot some of these.

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I have not sorted through these yet looking for rejects :

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Petrol & Powder

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The solid wadcutter is under appreciated. At handgun ranges it offers fine accuracy with a full size, flat nose coupled with long bearing surface in the bore and the potential of deep seating in the casing to maximize the efficiency of small powder charges.

While it can be a fun target bullet that cuts nice clean holes in target paper, it can also transfer maximum power through that flat nose.
 

KeithB

Resident Half Fast Machinist
I remember reading about a detective back in the day when the .38 wheelgun was the norm who carried full wadcutters as his first load. His reloads were some other loading cuz full wadcutters don't load smoothly. (For that matter neither do SWCs.) But for the first 5 or 6 full WCs work just fine.
 

Ben

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Staff member
Jim Cirillo was probably the last real gunfighter in America. Without a doubt the combat arms fellas in our military are gunfighters, but they ply their trade overseas. Jim did it at home, in the grim streets of New York city. He was a member of the city’s Stake Out Squad, a unit which was involved in over 250 shootouts. He later became a writer and firearms instructor. He published several books including “Guns, Bullets, and Gunfights”.
 

Petrol & Powder

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I remember reading about a detective back in the day when the .38 wheelgun was the norm who carried full wadcutters as his first load. His reloads were some other loading cuz full wadcutters don't load smoothly. (For that matter neither do SWCs.) But for the first 5 or 6 full WCs work just fine.
It was well known amongst savvy street cops that the old 38 Special Lead round nose bullet was lacking in stopping power. The politically correct and accepted solution in the day was wadcutters. Even if challenged, the excuse of, “I just left the range” or “Must have grabbed target loads by accident” would often be enough to deflect the question of why round nose bullets were not carried.

I’ve talked to a lot of old cops and done a few informal surveys. Those guys were not stupid and had work arounds for the politically correct B.S. of their days.
 

StrawHat

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I load a 45 caliber wadcutter for my ACP revolvers. Great bullets! I load them over a hardball dose of powder and get good accuracy and decent speed. They cut big holes and are good on Ohio white tailed deer.

Kevin
 

RicinYakima

High Steppes of Eastern Washington
The solid wadcutter is under appreciated. At handgun ranges it offers fine accuracy with a full size, flat nose coupled with long bearing surface in the bore and the potential of deep seating in the casing to maximize the efficiency of small powder charges.
I have all my LE books from the 1960's and 1970's. If it isn't a jacketed hollow point loaded to the gills, the bullet will bounce off their belt buckle. Even today, some old time LE guys have nothing to say good about a full wadcutter at 850 f/s. Especially out west where shots tend to be longer and behind pickup trucks! Having many patients with gun shot wounds, WC's were as good as anything. FWIW
 
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