Are You Kidding Me...????

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I think some of the early 454 ammo was loaded with a SR primer using a little bushing like that.

I don't have the patience to deal with those little bits of metal.
 

358156 hp

At large, whereabouts unknown.
Brads right on top of it. This is nothing new, although I hope his firing pin handles the .010 (max) difference between small primer, and large rifle primer height. Large pistol primers are the same height as the small primers, in which small rifle & small pistol primers have dimensionally identical specifications.
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
they used small rifle primers and small primer pockets.
the idea was to cut down on the pressure coming back through the flash hole.

I don't know why you'd want to convert to using small primers anyway those are the first to disappear and the last to turn up every time there is a shortage.
 

Ian

Notorious member
SR primers can handle something like 60K psi, much more than even magnum pistol primers. I understood that Dick Casull used the SR primer for that reason, isn't that right Lamar?
 

fiver

Well-Known Member
he was looking for as much high pressure capability as possible.
Dick doesn't run anything on the low end.
he loads his 9mm with blue-dot a lot of blue-dot.

I got a double handfull of 454 Brass from him to turn into some 450 Express mag brass about 10-12 years back and it was all small primer.

the 450 is the fore runner to the 454, Dick built those pistols in a partnership with NAA [the guy's that make the tiny pocket pistols] but you could get them with all/any of the 3 chambering's,,, the 450, the 45 win mag., and the 45 colt.

the pistols themselves are a little hard to explain.
kind of a heavy Ruger single action Barrel/ on a heavy Dan Wesson frame, with a slightly over sized part 73' colt finished off as a Bisley grip would be close.

anyway the 450 brass is all large pistol/rifle it's basically a slightly long 45 colt length 45 win mag case.
I had to trim the 454 cases back to chamber length, then cut the rims down so they would chamber and headspace on the case mouth.
I ended up notching the cases above the turned off rim with a triangular file, a hacksaw blade, and a drill motor just enough to fit the shell holder.
 

KHornet

Well-Known Member
Well, just my 2 cents, but it appears that some people have more
time than common sense or money.

Paul