Ben's Red

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
I think I will go with the big jar next time I buy some. Those tubes are a pain to deal with.
 

Ben

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Staff member
For me A MAJOR PAIN !

The tub is a major step forward in convenience.

Ben
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
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I used a spatula thinking it would be a great way to get the stuff out of the tube. Oh, it did. It also got on the handle of the spatula, my hands, and all over everything.

The tub is a HUGE step forward in making BR
 

Ian

Notorious member
To get the grease out of a tube, I make a crease across the tube about an inch down from the metal cap end, fold the end 90 degrees, squeeze flat, pinch with long needlenose pliers, and roll it up like a party whistle. This will extrude out 95% or more of the grease without making a mess.
 

JWFilips

Well-Known Member
From my experience : if you make Ben's Red the correct way there is no bad smell! That also carries over to pan lubeing: if you get a bad a smell that means you ruined it! I always set the heat on less then warm...even when compounding it ...wisk it well to blend it!

It should never smell bad if you get the burnt tire smell you ruined it!
 

Ben

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It should never smell bad if you get the burnt tire smell you ruined it!

Jim,

You have it pretty well summed up with that statement, I could not have said it better.

Ben
 

JSH

Active Member
What is the original recipe?
As to the paste wax is there one of those I should look for? I presume it is not a water based product. Just trying to expand my options in the future.
Jeff
 

Brad

Benevolent Overlord and site owner
Staff member
Use Johnson's paste wax, it can be found at hardware or home improvement stores.
The "original" recipe is what Ben posted in the OP.
This stuff isn't hard to make, it just needs low heat and time to melt things together well.
 

Ben

Moderator
Staff member
Slow , low heat, a lot of stirring with a wisk.
If you see smoke, turn your heat down.
You might think the components won't all mix, BUT with enough time and stirring they will mix.

Ben
 

35 shooter

Well-Known Member
Ben's Red is my "go to" lube at the range for 1st shots in the group from a cold or clean bbl.
Same goes for hunting.
I do keep the bore prepped with a wet patch of atf oil after shooting, then one dry patch through
the bore before shooting for group or hunting...no fouling shots required and absolutely no leading
in the bore...ever!
I've shot up to 2500 fps. in my 35 whelen with no problems and have a mould on the way i intend to
push even faster....hopefully with accuracy. I fully expect Ben's Red to handle that whether the bullet does or not!!
 

Brad

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I can't answer that. Haven't tried it in colder temps.
 

35 shooter

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I shot a 5 shot group with it @15* one morning before a freezing rain set in....it was time to go then?
Poi and group size was same as usual. I would test it in colder weather, but we don't have many days colder than that in S. MS.
My brother uses it where he lives in the CO. mountains though. Lol i cast, size, and lube his boolits for him, so he uses what i use...he really likes Bens Red though!
Usually doesn't get much hotter than 100* to 105* with up to 115* heat index here, but it works great on that end too. Not sure how cold my brother has tested it in, but he does request Ben's Red on his boolits lol!
 

Rally Hess

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Ben,
I got this converted recipe off the Boolit board a while back, that was converted to weight measurements. Is this correct?
24 oz of beeswax
14 oz of Lucas Red & Tacky
4.6 oz Johnson paste wax
5 1/3 tablespoons STP Oil treatment
5 1/3 tablespoons ATF
I've made 3 double batches of this and it has worked well for me so far. I add 6 oz more beeswax to my pistol lube to get a thicker lube. I used some "Trapper grade" beeswax for my first double batch. It still contained some honey and bees knees. LOL That batch has been delegated to buckshot and slug lube.
 

JSH

Active Member
Well I finally made a batch of bens red. Took about an hour to get everything melted and whisked together. Temp with elcheapo temp gun was 285-300ish. No smoke, though the smell of it is different. May just be used to FWFL.
If I make another batch I will melt beeswax in one pot and the grease in another, then mix the rest and let simmer for a for a while to get everything to the same temp.
My batch ended up a bit stiffer than I thought it would, one pound of virgin bees wax and then weighed the other ingredients. It is sticky though which I believe is a plus.

Have an extra 450 sizer I am going to boil out and use for this lube.
I look forward to giving it a try.
Jeff
 

35 shooter

Well-Known Member
Ben

My brother in Co. did a little cold weather shooting today with his h&r 35 whelen.
He was using a noe 230 gr. fn gc bullet with 52 gr. of aa4350 lubed with Ben's Red and an overcoat of Bll.
Altitude was 8,200 ft. and temp was about 20*. This load is usually under an inch@ 100 yds. for him

He ran a dry patch through a cold bbl. first and put the first 2 shots @ 100 yds. cutting each other and all 5 shots in 1.258" right where his usual sight in is.

Lol he said the cold affected his hands (frozen),not the lube.
Ben's Red is doing GREAT at high altitude in the cold.
 
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Ben

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Staff member
Well I finally made a batch of bens red. Took about an hour to get everything melted and whisked together. Temp with elcheapo temp gun was 285-300ish. No smoke, though the smell of it is different. May just be used to FWFL.
If I make another batch I will melt beeswax in one pot and the grease in another, then mix the rest and let simmer for a for a while to get everything to the same temp.
My batch ended up a bit stiffer than I thought it would, one pound of virgin bees wax and then weighed the other ingredients. It is sticky though which I believe is a plus.

Have an extra 450 sizer I am going to boil out and use for this lube.
I look forward to giving it a try.
Jeff

Let us know how it works Jeff.

Ben
 

Rally Hess

Well-Known Member
I've been shooting a few .32-20 loads in -7 temps the last couple days, no problems. Keeping the scope from fogging up after bringing it out of a warm building is another story.